Your Bwired porch Dome camera
Your Bwired porch Dome camera
I guess basically what you're saying is: why don't machines have the same intelligence as us, humans?
And what you're looking for, is an automation system with a plug into your brain, so it can read your mind and whisper things into your ear. We are just not there yet...
And what you're looking for, is an automation system with a plug into your brain, so it can read your mind and whisper things into your ear. We are just not there yet...
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Yes Digit, I guess the ultimate answer would be to have a human assistant!
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So basicly he's saying he wants to get married.
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Now we're talking
I am a 'techie', but just not a hardware techie. My work is actually looking into getting more intelligence into simulations for use in training. And like you say bwkevin, we still have a very long way to come. There is some very cool stuff going on, but those things are mostly specific for one single purpose, like one task for one situation in a game/simulation.
To be able to do the things you (and I) would like, the system needs to have a model of the user. Know what its needs are at any one point in time. That is so terribly complex that I'm not out of work for the next 50+ years
Luckily, current computing power makes relatively simple things like facial recognition are fairly easy to do, provided you have a clear picture of the person. And for that I need to know which camera can provide that in various weather and lighting conditions.
I am a 'techie', but just not a hardware techie. My work is actually looking into getting more intelligence into simulations for use in training. And like you say bwkevin, we still have a very long way to come. There is some very cool stuff going on, but those things are mostly specific for one single purpose, like one task for one situation in a game/simulation.
To be able to do the things you (and I) would like, the system needs to have a model of the user. Know what its needs are at any one point in time. That is so terribly complex that I'm not out of work for the next 50+ years
Luckily, current computing power makes relatively simple things like facial recognition are fairly easy to do, provided you have a clear picture of the person. And for that I need to know which camera can provide that in various weather and lighting conditions.
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Ok; so you have a good camera and you can identify who you (the system, that is) are dealing with. What will that help you? Next comes tracing where the user is going, what he/she is doing and particularly, <b>why</b>. Why do i sometimes keep my working clothes on when i come home in the evening? The system will never know; till the day i'll be "plugged in"..
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Getting back to porch cameras , I agree with IOrien and Digit that more sophistication is needed. I like the neural intelligence concept that iOmniscient (http://www.iomniscient.com/products.htm) provide. Their software is more useful than just a braindead camera and probably could be applied to a home security situation too.
However, at a lesser cost (zero) I'm starting to get creative with the porch cam and saving a lot of wasted time. Because since I installed it I would spend about 5-10 mins a day reviewing the last 24 hours of activity. It uses motion dection which only records 5 secs before and after movement, but even at the maximum 3x review speed that turned out to be quite time-consuming.
The breakthrough came over the last few days when I've discovered 90% of activity comes from our 2 cats on that camera. What a great life they lead on my porch! Even asleep, a slight twitch of a tail is enough to roll the camera for another 10 seconds.
So I reset the motion sensor boxes to exclude everything at cat height and their wander path, and so removed most of the useless activity.
The human brain triumphs again - and without pills, Pieter!
However, at a lesser cost (zero) I'm starting to get creative with the porch cam and saving a lot of wasted time. Because since I installed it I would spend about 5-10 mins a day reviewing the last 24 hours of activity. It uses motion dection which only records 5 secs before and after movement, but even at the maximum 3x review speed that turned out to be quite time-consuming.
The breakthrough came over the last few days when I've discovered 90% of activity comes from our 2 cats on that camera. What a great life they lead on my porch! Even asleep, a slight twitch of a tail is enough to roll the camera for another 10 seconds.
So I reset the motion sensor boxes to exclude everything at cat height and their wander path, and so removed most of the useless activity.
The human brain triumphs again - and without pills, Pieter!
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Yes there are motion sensors which only register movements above the X kilo. You can also examine the movement in the image itself by X percentage pixel movement. I do that with my Mobotix camera as well http://www.bwired.nl/Cammobotix.asp with good result.
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I have an Axis 2120 on my front porch and I am curious how to get the last x images after it senses motion. I have the motion alarm set up to capture 2 pre-alarm images every 2 seconds and 3 post-alarm images every 2 seconds... but how do you always show the last 5 images on your website?
great projects by the way!!
I am slowly getting there, I have a sensatronics u16 at home which I am using to get inside, outside, and hottub temps... garage doors open/close...driveway and living room motion, and water level in the cat's water bowl.
currently Im just watching real time XML feed, I really want to get it into a database to start looking at trends...
thanks,
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great projects by the way!!
I am slowly getting there, I have a sensatronics u16 at home which I am using to get inside, outside, and hottub temps... garage doors open/close...driveway and living room motion, and water level in the cat's water bowl.
currently Im just watching real time XML feed, I really want to get it into a database to start looking at trends...
thanks,
-J
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HI
Check the Axis API at:
http://www.axis.com/techsup/cam_servers ... _index.php
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Check the Axis API at:
http://www.axis.com/techsup/cam_servers ... _index.php
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Example 1: Create an image buffer, named DOOR1, with 10 pre-alarm images and 15 post-alarm images.
http://myserver/axis-cgi/buffer/command.cgi?do=start&buffername=DOOR1&prealarm=10&postalarm=15&uri=ftp://jpg/1/image.jpg
Example 2: Stop a buffer.
http://myserver/axis-cgi/buffer/command.cgi?do=stop&buffername=DOOR1
Example 3: Get images from the buffer.
http://myserver/axis-cgi/buffer/command.cgi?do=get&buffername=DOOR1&index=1
Example 4: Create an image buffer, named DOOR2. The images should be taken from camera 1 and have a resolution of 320x240 pixels. Five post-alarm images should be stored.
http://myserver/axis-cgi/buffer/command.cgi?do=start&buffername=DOOR2
&postalarm=5&uri=ftp://jpg/image.jpg?resolution=320x240&camera=1
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Pieter,
that API would be great but I am running v2.32 firmware and the API isnt supported
there are manual settings for the pre & post alarm buffer... that part is working fine. I get 5 files sent to FTP on every alarm...
so after a week of in & out traffic I will likey have hundreds of images saved to the FTP directory I would like to be able to see only the LAST 5 that were sent...
should I try to write some ASP script that will look at the filenames (which contain the date and time) or is there a better way?
are you storing images in a folder only, or are you linking to them via a database? how much "history" do you keep? we use the frontdoor 20 times a day so I could quickly get thousands of images...
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that API would be great but I am running v2.32 firmware and the API isnt supported
there are manual settings for the pre & post alarm buffer... that part is working fine. I get 5 files sent to FTP on every alarm...
so after a week of in & out traffic I will likey have hundreds of images saved to the FTP directory I would like to be able to see only the LAST 5 that were sent...
should I try to write some ASP script that will look at the filenames (which contain the date and time) or is there a better way?
are you storing images in a folder only, or are you linking to them via a database? how much "history" do you keep? we use the frontdoor 20 times a day so I could quickly get thousands of images...
-J
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We just talk about is in this topic below
http://www.domoticaforum.eu/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4016
and check this asp sample, with some tuning it can be done.
http://www.asp101.com/articles/john/ima ... efault.asp
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http://www.domoticaforum.eu/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4016
and check this asp sample, with some tuning it can be done.
http://www.asp101.com/articles/john/ima ... efault.asp
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are you sure no API?
check this for firmware 2.x
http://www.axis.com/techsup/cam_servers ... tp_api.php
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check this for firmware 2.x
http://www.axis.com/techsup/cam_servers ... tp_api.php
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