ELV Max! record Actual room temps in a graph
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ELV Max! record Actual room temps in a graph
Hi All,
I'm new to the forum so please don't jump on me
I recently bought some eQ-3 TRV's, room thermostats and a cube.
What I'm looking for is some way to record Actual room temps in a graph form or other easy manageable form. Max buddy is in German and I have zero german knowledge - apart from frau and some other stuff :p, fhem seems very complicated for a noob like me, but I see many of you guys are actually using some sort of programs that do what I want. I searched the forums but could not find anything...
So please if it is possible point me in the right direction to a download link or something
Best Regards,
Claudiu
I'm new to the forum so please don't jump on me
I recently bought some eQ-3 TRV's, room thermostats and a cube.
What I'm looking for is some way to record Actual room temps in a graph form or other easy manageable form. Max buddy is in German and I have zero german knowledge - apart from frau and some other stuff :p, fhem seems very complicated for a noob like me, but I see many of you guys are actually using some sort of programs that do what I want. I searched the forums but could not find anything...
So please if it is possible point me in the right direction to a download link or something
Best Regards,
Claudiu
Re: ELV Max! record Actual room temps in a graph
Could use some help here too.
I need to record the actual temp and the set temp with a php(preferable) script.
I got the database in place, just can't seem to figure how to make the script.
I need to record the actual temp and the set temp with a php(preferable) script.
I got the database in place, just can't seem to figure how to make the script.
Re: ELV Max! record Actual room temps in a graph
read L entry
look for the wall thermostat data
find set temp and actual temp values
you have all
for specific byte, look to the 3d regarding the max protocol reverse engineering..
look for the wall thermostat data
find set temp and actual temp values
you have all
for specific byte, look to the 3d regarding the max protocol reverse engineering..
Re: ELV Max! record Actual room temps in a graph
Hi Massi,
By the looks of it you already have some program that does that. Is it possible to share it please ?
Regards,
Claudiu
By the looks of it you already have some program that does that. Is it possible to share it please ?
Regards,
Claudiu
Re: ELV Max! record Actual room temps in a graph
Hi thanks for the response.Massi wrote:read L entryVullf wrote:Could use some help here too.
I need to record the actual temp and the set temp with a php(preferable) script.
I got the database in place, just can't seem to figure how to make the script.
look for the wall thermostat data
find set temp and actual temp values
you have all
for specific byte, look to the 3d regarding the max protocol reverse engineering..
As far as i can read on the web, it's only possible to read the actual temp if you have a wall thermostat.
Is that corret?
Re: ELV Max! record Actual room temps in a graph
i can confirm you the possibility to fetch real current temp from wall thermostatVullf wrote:As far as i can read on the web, it's only possible to read the actual temp if you have a wall thermostat.
Is that corret?
this is how i'm using my wall thermostats..
and as you said, it seems that actual temp in radiator thermostat is not "real", meaning that it's not updated very often.
But i have to admin that i did not look inside the radiator thermostat data..
Re: ELV Max! record Actual room temps in a graph
I'm at a total loss here
Is there no easy way for non-gifted ones to get the data ?
I mean I read tens of posts on how to get data from the cube, tried telnet to port 62910 but my cube doesn't give any response...it just replies with "Could not open connection to the host"..
Can someone please explain the whole process in 1,2,3, points please? Starting form how to connect to the cube and so forth. I found my cube's IP address, bind it to the mac address in the router's setting so that it always gets the same ip , but from there on I have no clue on what to do.
I know it is a lot to ask due to that fact that it will take some time/patience for someone to explain the whole process in detail but I think it will be a great benefit for a lot of people.
On a side note, I have a question about the max! iphone app and the max! portal. Does one needs to open some ports in the router to be able to use the phone app? As it does seem to work very very slowly... I see the data from hours ago, no real time data
Regards,
Claudiu
Is there no easy way for non-gifted ones to get the data ?
I mean I read tens of posts on how to get data from the cube, tried telnet to port 62910 but my cube doesn't give any response...it just replies with "Could not open connection to the host"..
Can someone please explain the whole process in 1,2,3, points please? Starting form how to connect to the cube and so forth. I found my cube's IP address, bind it to the mac address in the router's setting so that it always gets the same ip , but from there on I have no clue on what to do.
I know it is a lot to ask due to that fact that it will take some time/patience for someone to explain the whole process in detail but I think it will be a great benefit for a lot of people.
On a side note, I have a question about the max! iphone app and the max! portal. Does one needs to open some ports in the router to be able to use the phone app? As it does seem to work very very slowly... I see the data from hours ago, no real time data
Regards,
Claudiu
Re: ELV Max! record Actual room temps in a graph
Do you have some other ELV MAX-related software running somewhere while you're trying to connect?
Cause that would be one of the most common things that can result in what you're describing.
Explaining in 3 points is not doable, especially the 'and so forth' part. Cause the minute you have a working connection to the Cube, you'll need software.
And since you're telnetting to the Cube, I assume you want to develop your own software - cause I don't see any reason why you would do that for another reason.
Is developing software also part of the 'and so forth'? Oh my... yes, that's a lot to ask. Too much, if you ask me.
This forum has protocol documentation (although not totally up-to-date anymore but enough to get you going)
There's a Homeseer script for the ELV MAX here
There's OS software that support ELV MAX
I recently posted my own ELV MAX! code here
You can learn a lot from those sources. And if that ain't enough for you to get started, my advice would be to drop the whole issue.
But maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say..?
Cause that would be one of the most common things that can result in what you're describing.
Explaining in 3 points is not doable, especially the 'and so forth' part. Cause the minute you have a working connection to the Cube, you'll need software.
And since you're telnetting to the Cube, I assume you want to develop your own software - cause I don't see any reason why you would do that for another reason.
Is developing software also part of the 'and so forth'? Oh my... yes, that's a lot to ask. Too much, if you ask me.
This forum has protocol documentation (although not totally up-to-date anymore but enough to get you going)
There's a Homeseer script for the ELV MAX here
There's OS software that support ELV MAX
I recently posted my own ELV MAX! code here
You can learn a lot from those sources. And if that ain't enough for you to get started, my advice would be to drop the whole issue.
But maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say..?
Re: ELV Max! record Actual room temps in a graph
Thank you for the answer Digit.
Yes it was some other application running. After stopping that, telnet-ing to the cube gives back a ton of information. Not that I know what to do with it..
I did specify I have no skills in developing software, so I have no idea how to build my own application.
My final goal is to record Actual vs Set Temperatures in each room.
I thought that someone would have some application that can automatically decode the telnet data and plot it.
Good News is that I found the first part, the decoding part I installed Max!Buddy latest beta and it can decode and export all the data to a file every 5 mins which is great. From there I can manually import the file into excel and make some graphs. So more then half of what I was looking for is done. All that remains is to find some application that will import that file and plot the data automatically.
Best Regards,
Claudiu
Yes it was some other application running. After stopping that, telnet-ing to the cube gives back a ton of information. Not that I know what to do with it..
I did specify I have no skills in developing software, so I have no idea how to build my own application.
My final goal is to record Actual vs Set Temperatures in each room.
I thought that someone would have some application that can automatically decode the telnet data and plot it.
Good News is that I found the first part, the decoding part I installed Max!Buddy latest beta and it can decode and export all the data to a file every 5 mins which is great. From there I can manually import the file into excel and make some graphs. So more then half of what I was looking for is done. All that remains is to find some application that will import that file and plot the data automatically.
Best Regards,
Claudiu
Re: ELV Max! record Actual room temps in a graph
you did 30, maybe you can do 31
i think that adding to the graph the valve aperture info can give you a lot of informations regarding how the system manages your temperature.
Something like this..