Xanura plug-in modules?

Post by **stefxx** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:24 pm

Hi,

I used Marmitek X10 modules (both plug-in and build-in) in the past but it never worked reliable. Since I replaced all build-in modules with Xanura modules all my problems are gone. However, I still haven't found a good replacement for the plug-in modules.

As far as I know Xanura doesn't have any plug-in modules. Are there any alternatives? I have a few KaKu modules (in combination with a RFXCOM) but I have a problem with the range. I really like to continue on the A10 protocol...

Thanks in advance.

Post by **Henk** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:45 pm

Install the Xanura modules inside a connector case article 522880 of www.conrad.nl .. be aware when unplugging the case and touching the both metal poles you will get a minor shock.
You may even drill a small hole in the case so you can program the module.

Henk

Post by **stefxx** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:57 pm

Smart thinking, I might do that.

Did you try this yourself? Any tips?

Post by **TANE** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:22 pm

Thats a good idea...only problem they look so big and ugly.

What you also can use is the TM13.
Just remove the antenna and you will have a two way plug.

Post by **Digit** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:43 am

But IIRC with TM13 you can only use addresses A1, B1, C1, etc...

Post by **Henk** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:46 am

Yes, I made several plugin Xanura modules using this kind of plug-thru case . Compared with the Marmitek modules it is a little bigger.

You may have a look at different case models ... like using a case only with a plug and using an electrical cord going direct to the appliance.

Henk

Post by **Harlin** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:55 pm

In the beginning, plugin modules where available in the program. They where white & slim, same housing as the Xanura plugin filter. The housing is NOT sold separately.

My simple solution:
Buy some cheap kika (?) modules @ fav diy shop. Sometimes they are on Sale, remove hardware, xanura modules will fit. I got some on sale @ praxis.

Conrad housing, butt ugly (imho)

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Post by **Harlin** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:38 pm

Plugin unit used for builing my own plug-in modules Elro AB601, removed the hardware some little diy tweaking (removing hardware support stuff and glued orignal led and switch on the back)

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Post by **stefxx** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:09 pm

What happens if you put the plug in the wall outlet upside down? The Xanura have very clear fase and null inputs, can the be switched without problems?

Post by **Henk** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:13 pm

It will work if the wires (fase - null) are switched ... only problem you may have 230V power on the switching wires of the actor so be aware of isolation.

Henk

Post by **stefxx** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:39 pm

Thanks. I was planning to add a small switch on the plug-in module so I could operate the plug-in module locally (and at the same time I could use that for programming). Would that be a problem when null and fase are switched?

Post by **stefxx** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:21 pm

As a test I used an old X10 AM12 module, removed everything inside and a SAIX12 fitted perfectly. Drilled a small hole to access the PROG button and voila it worked. I just needed to glue the house- and devicecode switch to the case otherwise I had two round holes in there.

Haven't tried to add a small switch (see previous post) because there was not enough space. But I ordered a few cases from conrad as there is more room to add the switch as well. Still don't know if that will work when fase and null are switched...

Post by **Harlin** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:05 pm

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 It will work if the wires (fase - null) are switched ... only problem you may have 230V power on the switching wires of the actor so be aware of isolation.
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It will work, with a DIY plugin module you don't use the switching wires

I use 'krimpkous' to isolate these wires.

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Post by **Harlin** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:02 am

To the left the rare Xanura plugins, to the right diy plugins based on Elro hardware with Xanura modules.

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Post by **stefxx** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:24 pm

Ok, here is my creation. I added a switch for manual operation and also easy programming (no need to open the case to press the PROG button).