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Hi all,
I have a old Nexus PSU in my Homeseer server
it's 350 watt version efficiency is +/- 65%

My homeseer server is consuming about 75 watt with the Nexus PSU
Asus main int. Video
Intel CPU E8400
8 GB memory
2 X 500Gb WD HD

Will the new Pico PSU work and reduce the power consumption to <60 watt
http://www.salland.eu/?redirect=/conten ... ?pid=38040
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article601-page1.html

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Yes, you will see the difference in power consumption for sure.

I've read a lot about it while looking for a good PSU. In the end i didn't go for a Pico but chose a good 80+.

Beware that this PSU has to cope with much higher load at boot time, will it be able to handle that? AFAIK it goes to 80W max or was it 120, right?
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The one I'm looking for is the 120W version.
I think the real consumption of my system is less then 60
PicoPsu 120W is the double what I'm consuming this must be okay?
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Don't you have a energy-meter you can plug between wall outlet and PSU? It has to be a bit quick to show peeks (1 second interval should be ok). If you don't you can have 1 tomorrow [:)]
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I can't find mine back...:( Yes please.
I have Plugwise but this one is not so fast for real time check. Delay is few seconds.
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Check!
I'm curious to see what this PSU will benefit in your case.
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I have considered the Pico as well. It can be powered from a (car) battery and a battery with a charger connected to it is much more efficient than a regular power supply on a UPS. But it the end I decided to go for the latter option anyway because it is much more versatile. Now my entire network is running on the UPS, including a couple of PoE devices, without modifying their power supplies.

I too chose a 80Plus power supply, but I have recently found out that this label is rather useless because it specifies the efficiency at a rather high load. While at a more realistic load the efficient isn't always as good as suggested. Most computers don't consume (much) more than 60Watt in idle, while they're often equipped with power supply with a capacity of 450Watt or more, given it a load of ~11%. Power supplies meeting the 80Plus standard (http://www.80plus.org/documents/Server_ ... 9Aug07.pdf) are still allowed a steep drop of efficiency below a load of 20%, just the area where it is used the most and where things get interesting (of course in absolute numbers the amount saved is less too). For maximum efficiency a power supply should be selected carefully: We usually pick one with a capacity big enough to assure it can handle the load, sometimes up to a factor 10. But proper capacity calculation will save more energy in the end.

The 80Plus organization publishes efficiency measurement report of every power supply with its label. You can find these reports here:
http://www.80plus.org/manu/psu/psu_join.aspx
Interestingly they stop measuring below a relative load of 20%. So for a computer using 60Watt of power in idle, a 5x60Watt=300Watt power supply would be ideal. If the load is spread across the rails equally and your computer doesnt contain high-end graphic cards etc
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Hi,

I use a pico WI (batteries go to 28v+, so needed the WI version) on an 800Mhz VIA board with 512Mb, it's running 2K3 server just fine, it's connected to my battery bank and solar/wind, average consumption is 11w, might be less if I had a solid state drive.

Charging battery via mains, you'll lose 10-20% there unless it's a really good power supply (not a car charger), maybe 20% by the battery inefficency, you might be better off keeping it on the UPS all things considered.

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@chak: Any News? Just curious...
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conclusion..it can work..
problem is to find the right adapter for 120 watt

There is another idea born.

stop using the the server and move the Vmware machines to the MCE.
This will reduce my power consumption 75*24*365 =657000 watt per year.

I will test this first if it works fine..next step is than sell the server at Marktplaats.
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my thing in the future, i can have a big pc with vmware... but what about a pc windows mediacenter? then i still have 2.. since i dont want to wait for my mediacenter to turn on.. and i dont want my "vmware" box in the living room either (sound and size and all)

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My MCE is always on..if power management works well it will go to standby.
problem is that them MCE is almost 24 hours online.

I don't use the MCE for other things. Only for recording and watching
MCE is the Acer Idea 511
I just need to upgrade the memory.
With Vmware (2 extra machines) I need 4 GB

Other option is go for a small PC for Homeseer
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Chak</i>
<br />conclusion..it can work..
problem is to find the right adapter for 120 watt

There is another idea born.

stop using the the server and move the Vmware machines to the MCE.
This will reduce my power consumption 75*24*365 =657000 watt per year.

I will test this first if it works fine..next step is than sell the server at Marktplaats.
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