Fingerprint Lock - advise?

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Fingerprint Lock - advise?

Postby DJF3 » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:54 pm

Team,

Not having seen recent information I wanted to ask your opinion about Fingerprint locks
Goal: Easy (keyless) access to my garage (which has 2 large doors)
Only requirement: Fingerprint. Don't care about bluetooth, apps or Home Automation integration (even though that would be nice)

So far I found these options:
REX Cylinder http://www.navkom.si/en/rex-cylinder/
+ simple design, small, no keypad
price: approx € 450,-
Burg Wachter 5012 burg.biz/html/default/ae23c9fb2e710c580 ... f7.en.html
+ easy mounting, price
- separate fingerprint scanner + code panel (don't care) + display (don't care)
price: approx € 350,-

The REX Cylinder looks very interesting to me.. Any experiences with this product?


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Re: Fingerprint Lock - advise?

Postby raymonvdm » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:45 pm

I have seen some of these, there are outdoor and POE powered

https://www.supremainc.com/en/AccessCon ... BioEntry-W


Note: This is only the authentication device. It also needs an actuator/lock to open the door. But you can choose any lock which supports opening by 12/24v
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Re: Fingerprint Lock - advise?

Postby DJF3 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:53 pm

raymonvdm wrote:I have seen some of these, there are outdoor and POE powered
https://www.supremainc.com/en/AccessCon ... BioEntry-W
Note: This is only the authentication device. It also needs an actuator/lock to open the door. But you can choose any lock which supports opening by 12/24v


Thanks for the update. Turns out I'm not looking for a device that turns the key, only something that 'unlocks' opening the key. (lower battery consumption, less moving parts)

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Re: Fingerprint Lock - advise?

Postby olof » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:32 pm

W.r.t. to the Rex (or any other fingerprint reader for outdoor use), there are a couple of issues to be aware off if you are going to install it on an outside door:

1. What is its IP rating? I could not find any IP rating for the REX so not sure how weather-proof the thing is for outside usage. I did find a "operating humidity: up to 100%' but not sure that is the same as a proper IP65 rating or higher.

2. Fingerprint sensors tend to stop working when exposed to direct sunlight after some time. That's why most wall readers w/ fingerprintsensors have some type of cover/'roof' over the sensor. But if you are able to turn the sensor-based-knob downward after each use, this should avoid this issue. But it requires user-discipline (you and your family members..) after each opening..

3. Mechanical security / anti-burglary protection. Most countries have regulations which outside-facing products must meet in order to be burglary-resistant. For example, in Netherlands its 'SKG'( 2 or 3 stars) and in Germany its VdS. Resistant to drilling, hacking, bending, etc.. European norm is 'EN 1303' which has a boring 8-digit code. You could ask the supplier if the last digit ('Attack resistance') has Grade 2 or Grade D. That is the highest possible resistance to attack for cylinders.

Good luck and let us know what you ended up buying!

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Re: Fingerprint Lock - advise?

Postby DJF3 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:37 pm

I have asked the Rex Cylinder vendor about certifications and IP-rating. (I did see somewhere that it's IP65).
The strange thing is that I cannot seem to find any user-exerpences & reviews except for what is published by the vendor itself.
That could mean the Rex Cylinder is an OEM or that it's not being sold a lot.
Let's see what the vendor says..
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Re: Fingerprint Lock - advise?

Postby Snelvuur » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:08 pm

File was to big to upload, but found it online here too: http://www.openingcontrols.nl/wp-conten ... 14_web.pdf

I have one of the "opbouw" readers, since i didn't have enough room to place it in my door (not a wooden door either) so far i am pretty happy with it, the electric opening was mounted in the door too which works like a charm. No bad WAF factor here. Only thing is that if there is too much water on it, it wont work. Just clean it with a sleeve or something and its all ok again. I've installed a small 'roof' above my door so that you can stay dry and it will stop 95% of the rain onto the reader too.
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