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Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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Oke i want to start a funny z-wave project.

I have a Philips Senseo HD7810 Silver Metal. I also have an Duwi 05437 Z-wave Switch.
I completely removed the z-wave hardware from the Duwi Switch. I also opened my Philips Senseo. Here comes the idea:

I want to attach the z-wave to my Philips Senseo. So I can just boil the water before i get downstairs.

Problem:
I dont understand the circuit board of the philips senseo. I want the power button to be disabled and just put the boiler on by putting power on the Philips Senseo.
But then i need to know how to disable the power button on the Senseo and attach the Duwi Switch so i can put the power on.

Somebody who can help me with this little project?

Would be great :D
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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It would be use full to post some pictures of both boards. So some of the electronic guru's here can have a look at it!
Be aware though.. it's all 230v circuitry.. which could kill you if used the wrong way.
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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i will post some pictures later.

yes, i know about the 230v. but the Duwi switch switches 230v on or off. so this should not be a problem i hope :)
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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The Dewi Z-Wave switch
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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I'm interested in this as well.
But I think (by the way you explained your problem) that your problem is that you don't know how te connect it to the senseo. A picture of the senseo inside would be very helpfull for the thechnical guys here then, i think.
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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@TFL9 Yes, i dont know how to connect it. i also dont know how to disable the power button.

i will post the pictures of the senseo this evening.
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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The middle red button is the power button and to boil the water
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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Damn, those Senseo prints looks like they come from the 80s.
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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Put in the reservoir enough water for 1 or 2 cups (not more otherwise you will get an overflow

Get some sticky tape and put it on the middle button and either left or right button ...so the buttons will make contact like is being pushed

Put the Senseo plug in a controlled Zwave on/off plug

Switch on the plug when coffee is wanted.


PS: In the past this was the most referred domotica application waking up with brewed coffee - it made sense with the non senseo style coffee makers it may took 5 minutes to get it done ....
with senseo it will be less than 1 minute so it make no sense(o). to automate it ...

You may consider to get a little coffeemaker (camping) so you can hide it inside you cupboard/cabinet besides the bed ..... and switch it on early in the morning ... this will be perfect because you dont have to get up ...
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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He said funny project, it does not have to be functional and make sense.. Could be good practice to move to more serious projects later.

Anyway, Looks like the Senseo print is low power (verify if it is).
switch S1 is the on/off push button.
Check if the duwi is a low power on/off switch too.
If both are, measure/figure out the signals on the S1 pins.
Like it makes a contact between the left and right side when you push the button. (eg. pulling a signal up or grounding a pin)
You could probably connect the duwi on top of the S1 switch making them both functional.
However, you should measure the signals, check what chip is on the print, follow the tracks etc.

have fun..
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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As Philips brings it, that is Sense and Simplicity!
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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Use one Zwave on/off device to turn the power on/off of the senseo - and modify the middle button so it will be always on.

Use a second Zwave actor with a 230V relay and connect the contacts accross either the one cup or two cup selection push switch

Operation sequence: turn on the power - wait till the water has reached the right temperature and turn shortly the second zwave actor on/off so the senseo device will receive the command to produce coffee....

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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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the duwi switch i a 230v switch. so i cannot connect it directly to the Senseo circuit board. si far, i think the only solution is the main power switch. so i can switch the power on-off. the button to put the Senseo on (boil the water) is a low voltage button.
So no option to connect it to the duwi switch. I have to find a way to disable the boil-button.

One option is the option of Henk. just keep pressure on the boil-button and when i switch the power on, the Senseo starts to boil the water.

i will post some pictures from my project later.

now i need to find multiple low voltage z-wave switches to control the boil-button and the 1coffe-button

:D

And yes, yhis is just for fun and to get some experiance for a new (funny) project.
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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Use a JeeNode with relay Plug :D
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Re: Z-Wave enabled Philips Senseo

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Oke, just some pictures. It is work in progress :D

The white button on the back you can use to switch it on/off manualy
The yellow LED indicates its on
The Blue LED indicates its Off

For now i can turn the power on/off. When i stuck the (boil/power) button on the front of the Senseo and i switch it on, it begins to boil the water :D!!! Really funny to control your Coffee machine with my iphone/ipod
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Power on
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The z-wave chip pasted at the back
The z-wave chip pasted at the back
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