Basics: Differences Homematic IP vs Homematic

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Basics: Differences Homematic IP vs Homematic

Postby tomi_cc16 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:07 pm

Hi,

If you don’t want to spend a lot of time and only want a plug & play solution, Homematic IP is what you should choose. You need to buy an HM IP Access Point (always connected to the cloud) and the HM-IP devices you want to control. There is also an official HM-IP App for iOS and Android available, Amazon Alexa (+ and Google Home) is already integrated and you can create your own scenarios and heat profiles with the App.

But if you want to go deeper, combine different programs and devices and be also cloud independent !!! Then you should choose "classic" Homematic, here you need as a central - CCU2 - or you use RaspberryMatic (faster than CCU2) + wireless module

RaspberryMatic:
https://github.com/jens-maus/RaspberryMatic
+ wireless module 868,3/869,525 MHz :
https://www.amazon.de/HomeMatic-Funkmod ... +raspberry

Homematic central CCU2:
https://www.amazon.de/HomeMatic-103584- ... words=ccu2

Pro and Cons Homematic vs Homematic IP

"classic" Homematic

Pro:
• Higher variety of components - Homematic IP, however, is steadily growing
• Homematic wired components for fuse boxes are also offered. Especially for new construction projects, the use of wired components can save a lot of money. Higher reliability of wired components because they are insensitive to radio interference (and no duty cycle)
• Powerful program creation (scripts) on the CCU2/ RaspberryMatic:
• Direct link between devices, devices can still be controlled (also if CCU2/RaspberryMatic is off)
• internal Wifi functions still available if the Internet is not working
• High flexibility due to the possibility of installing additional software (e.g. Philips HUE, Sonos, Homekit Siri, Amazon Alexa, …) on the CCU2/ RaspberryMatic
• Homematic IP components can be connted to the CCU2/ RaspberryMatic (!)
• With the latest Firmware "official" Philips HUE integration
• Can be used with 3’rd party overall smart home connectors like ioBroker, Openhab, FHEM, Homee, Home Assistant, …
• Big German fanbase and scripts and knowledge available

Cons:
• No official Cloud Service available
• No official smartphone App, but there are many useful Apps for iOS and Android from independent developers available
• Access from the Internet e.g. for an App to the CCU2 must be done per VPN.
• A port release should not be used for security reasons!
• The design of the devices is less modern than with Homematic IP components
• The system needs a higher training period and can be seen as a small hobby from a certain size - you should definitely have fun and be ready to put time into the project.
• Slow and awkward administration interface of the CCU2 - It cannot be used as a visualization on a tablet. But there are Web and App solutions available
• No new classic Homematic devices due to the fact that Homematic IP device can be added to CCU2/ RaspberryMatic
• In one room don’t mix Homematic IP and Homematic device because a direct link (see PRO above) is not possible
• Very small English speaking fanbase


Homematic IP
Pro:
• Official App for Android and iOS (not for Windows Phone)
• Amazon Alexa and Google Home integration
• Easy handling of the App - much more suitable for users who have little desire to work for hours in any details
• Full control over the free (!) Cloud - you do not have to worry about whether you're on your Wi-Fi network or on the other side of the world. The access always works.
• Very simple setup - The central Access Point is simply connected to the router, everything else is done by scanning the QR codes on the devices with the smartphone.
• Modern design
• Own Scenario and heating profiles available
• New products constantly created

Cons:
• No configuration of the system on the computer possible, the App must be used
• Homematic components cannot be taught to Homematic IP (the other way around possible)
• No Internet, no Cloud, no internal Wifi configuration or control thru App
• No access with other systems to the data of Homematic IP - thus Homematic IP cannot be combined with other systems like ioBroker, Openhab, FHEM, Homee, Mediola …☹
• No interface, no individual scripts/programs possible
• No Apple Homekit Siri, Philips HUE, IFTTT, ... integration/interaction

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"classic" Homematic
is also usable for free with Amazon Alexa by using the tutorial with VPN (use Chrome to translate the page)
https://hconnectweb.azurewebsites.net/

or VPN and Amazon Alexa connection for 22,95 € via the cloudmatic server (use Chrome to translate the page)
https://www.cloudmatic.de/cloudmatic-connect.html

Homematic Link Collection for Beginners (read it !! it's in German but so important - use Chrome to translate the page)
https://homematic-forum.de/forum/viewto ... 19&t=22801

Homematic manuals (check also the "Brochure" - Download-Type for a good overview)
http://www.eq-3.com/service/downloads.html

Apps for iOS:
• @Home
• pocket control HM
• HomeControl
• homeNOW
• …

Android Apps:
• TinyMatic
• Home24
• homeNOW
• …

Addons:
CUx-Daemon Addon – *MotherOfAllHmAddons* - an universal interface between the HomeMatic CCU logic layer (ReGaHSS) and third-party (EnOcean, M-Bus, 1-Wire, ArtDMX, etc.) and virtual devices - *must* basic for most Addons
https://github.com/jens-maus/cuxd

Virtual Interface Addon (Many many plugins like HUE, Sonos, NetAmo, LogitechHarmony, ..)
https://github.com/thkl/Homematic-Virtual-Interface

Philips HUE Addon:
https://github.com/j-a-n/homematic-addon-hue

Homebridge (Siri/Homekit) Addon:
https://github.com/thkl/homebridge-homematic

Homegear Addon:
https://github.com/Homegear/Homegear-HomeMaticBidCoS

Webmatic Addon: (nicer Web surface than the original WebUI)
https://github.com/ldittmar81/webmatic

Sonos Addon:
https://github.com/jens-maus/hm-sonos

CCU VPN-AddOn: (use Chrome to translate the page)
https://hconnectweb.azurewebsites.net/Account/VpnAddOn

CCU Historian Addon:
https://github.com/mdzio/ccu-historian

CUxD-Highcharts Addon:
https://github.com/hobbyquaker/CUxD-Highcharts
Step by Step (use Chrome to translate the page)
https://homematic-forum.de/forum/viewto ... on#p173487

Smartphone WLAN Presence Addon (e.g. to activate the camera or alarm when you off):
https://github.com/jollyjinx/homematic

E-Mail Addon
https://github.com/jens-maus/hm_email

Watchdog Addon (CCU Addon implementing a watchdog functionality to restart certain services if they are identified to have crashed...)
https://github.com/jens-maus/hm-watchdog

Service Message *allinclusive* Script (use Chrome to translate the page)
https://homematic-forum.de/forum/viewto ... ilit=addon

Print Programs Addon
https://github.com/litti/hm-print/releases

HM Script Parser Addon
https://github.com/litti/scriptparser

XML-API CCU Addon (A HomeMatic CCU Addon implementing a xml request functionality as an interface to all homematic deviced available to a CCU device)
https://github.com/hobbyquaker/XML-API

Step-by-Step in English: Send PUSH Message to your Phone for Telegram App:
https://homematic-forum.de/forum/viewto ... 64#p331564
Pushover App: (use Chrome to translate the page)
https://www.technikkram.net/2017/07/hom ... e-schicken
iOS Homematic App @Home (use Chrome to translate the page)
https://www.technikkram.net/2016/03/hom ... richtigung
iOS pocket control HM (use Chrome to translate the page)
https://penzler.de/phAnleitung/Anleitun ... ungen.html

Wake-on-LAN (for PC, NAS, ...)
1. Install CUxD Addon
2. Create a new Programm on the CCU2/RaspberryMatic with Code:
string stderr;
string stdout;
string wake;
wake = "/usr/local/addons/cuxd/extra/ether-wake -Your MAC-Adress";
system.Exec(wake, &stdout, &stderr);



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German Source: https://www.technikkram.net/2016/06/hom ... s-richtige
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