Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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@bus147,
Just to be sure we're talking about the same thing:
When I talk about controltemp, I mean control setpoint i.e. the CH supply water temperature setpoint i.e. flow temperature the boiler has to produce.
Not the room setpoint.

The boiler flow temperature never reaches those 90 degrees (in CH mode), cause after the relatively short 90 degree 'kickstart' the thermostat lowers the control setpoint (and hence the resulting flow temperature) to a 'condensation level' in a way that the actual flow temperature never overshoots the target flow temperature (40-45 grC).
It's just a mechanism to get the boiler producing the target flow temp asap and there's no efficiency lost at all with this.
This (also) happens in a situation where the thermostat is trying to keep the temperature as close as possible to a (unchanged!) room setpoint.

OTOH, raising the room setpoint with 2 degrees is a lot actually. And I don't find it strange that (in such a case) the boiler is 'forced' to operate with temperatures which are not good for efficiency; it's all a trade-off between speed+comfort and efficiency... and here efficiency sometimes loses :wink:
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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@digit,

it's the same we're talking about. The possibility to heat up your room to 90C would lethal. As wrote before I never saw it because the recom interface only works since a few weeks and I do not log that variable. Before I only measured water temperatures. I'm only interested in heat output, pump speed and water temperature levels. And yes, my Quinta & iSense combination also raises the setpoint to 90 C for a short period but only if the burner was off or if a large adjustment is made. I've got quite a different and much large heating system than most here. One of the most notable differences is the presence of heatexchangers. The one used for heating is installed to prevent dirt and oxygen damaging the boiler. The primary circuit has a very small volume and could easily heat up to 90 deg if the secondary doesn't keep up. So when I saw a 90C setpoint it did scare me. But fortunately the boiler never heats up to those temperatures because the setpoint is lowered after a minute or so to more expected levels.

Oh and I raised the room setpoint by two degrees to ensure that the boiler really needed to start heating.
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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bus147 wrote: @bwired
Does your OTG never encounters a WDT reset with the iSense connected? Is it next to the boiler or next to the thermostat?

If this doesn't work either I think it's time to take my loss and see if a different thermostat works out-of-the box. I've talked to Honeywell this morning and that looks promising.
My OTG has never resets, runs smoothly and its on top of the Remeha Calenta
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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@bwired,

apart from the ill implemented remote temperature setpoint on the iSense. What really bugs me is that your iSense doesn't reset.
I've got an iSense v19 and a Quinta Pro with a very recent mainboard (2 months old). My iSense is some 11 mtrs away from the OTG.
You've got an iSense v23 and a Calenta (off unknown date).

I've increased the voltage of the comparator, on Schelte's advice, from VR=3 to VR=5 which did help but not enough.
Does my cable pickups certain noise? Sure but the devices that really generate noise, the pumps for instance, frequently switch on and off but dont seem to cause a reset.
The SmartPower hypothesis is also low on my list. Because you've got a working system. Did they change something in the iSense electronically? I'll doubt that. Remeha told me that all revisions were related to support new models. But that claim is without a changelog worthless.

The hunt continues...
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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i have a brand new Calenta (4 weeks old) :)
btw: now testing the TT=20 overide again, Hand is on the isense and at 22:00 normal program should pick up again and set to 15
lets see......
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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Ok I checked the TT command 2 times.
I have the same problem, the normal isense program does not take over anymore, the setpoint stays permanent.

@schelte: you recently created a new firmware for me, i dont think this is related, do you agree?
Somehow i think this worked earlier for me....

@digit: does this work on your honeywell, did you test this
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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TC works, no experience with TT yet.
I will do some tests asap.
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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bus147 wrote:Perhaps Schelte will allow to raise the voltage even more...
I have no idea why you think you need my permission for that. I don't think it will help much, but feel free to go all the way to the maximum. It won't do any permanent damage. You will lose communication when you set it too high, but that will come back as soon as you lower the reference voltage again.
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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Bwired wrote:@schelte: you recently created a new firmware for me, i dont think this is related, do you agree?
Somehow i think this worked earlier for me....
That firmware fixed a bug with changing the remote setpoint after it has already been set. I don't see how that could affect the TT feature. I also use that firmware myself and the TT functionality still works with my Honeywell thermostat.

Of course you can always reload the firmware from my site. That's still the old one without the fix.
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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bus147 wrote:When setting TC MsgID 100 is set to 0000 0001 and setting TT sets MsgID 100 to 0000 0011. Both bits are now set which according to the documentation should give priority to a program change and/or manual change. So yes the OTG adheres to the specs. But could I ask you to make a special build for test purposes with clears bit 0 resulting 0000 0010 when sending TT? Perhaps the iSense behaves correctly with that message.
I could do that, but do you have any reasons you are not telling us to believe it will help? Otherwise I give this very little chance of success.

I noticed recently that my Honeywell thermostat keeps the setpoint that was set remotely even if it gets an Unknown-DataID response on subsequent messages with DataID 9 (I had bypassed the gateway for a while and the boiler doesn't support DataID 9). Assuming your boiler will also respond with Unknown-DataID to remote setpoint override requests, you can easily test if that would be a possibility: Change the setpoint via a TT or TC command and wait until it is picked up. Next, send a GW=0 command to the gateway to put it in monitor mode. Make sure the setpoint doesn't change. Then wait for a program based setpoint change by the thermostat and see if that is effective.
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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@hvxl,

I just want to keep a controlled test setup. You gave instructions to raise VR to 5 so I did. I'm not going to mess around while testing unless instructed.

Regarding my hypothesis on the bit flags. Perhaps what I didn't tell, but figured was obvious, is that perhaps the iSense has an incorrect test of the bitflags in MsgId 100. For example if it does an OR on the bits and evaluates bit 0 first it effectively ignores the second but which controls the program change priority. This behavior is what I saw, I could manually resume the program, I could manually adjust the setpoint by turning the knob but on program change it keeps the remote temperature setpoint like if it was set with TC. So nothing hidden over here.

I did your test and a few more.
The clock program is as follows: current program 18deg next program again 18deg. I override the program by raising the temp till 18.5deg.
If I issue a successful TT wait a some 30 secs and then issue GW=0 then boiler responds with unk-dataid to MsgID 9. And immediately the hand symbol disappears.
Next I tried a few TT's but the thermostat failed to pick them up.
I issued another successful TT, the iSense asked for MsgID 100 and waited for the program change 10min later... and the hand disappeared and the clock program was resumed!?
I redid the test waited 10 minutes but the hand remained.
Sending TT=0 did clear the hand after almost two minutes.
Next I issued GW=0, waited for the iSense the pickup the unk-dataid and put it back into gateway mode.
Redid the test but again the hand remained on program change.
What' going on here?? I scrolled back in the log to the moment where the program was resumed. And something odd struck my eye. MsgID 100 contained the bit mask I suggested above. All subsequent messages had both bits set again. When searching my log files I did find one more instance. In a file named "otlog_succes 2.txt", because the hand disappeared that once. I couldn't reproduce it anymore and dismissed it as a fluke. I tried several times again but I cannot reproduce the bitmask anymore. After discovering this I do think it's worth trying out my hypothesis by not set bit 0 when sending TT. It's an easy test and can be tested by bwired as well since he has the same thermostat and encounters the same behaviour.

As always many thanks.


A fragment from otlog_success 2.txt

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21:41:12.850522 T101012EB Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.92
21:41:12.952177 BD01012EB Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.92
21:41:14.853327 T1001374C Write-Data Control setpoint: 55.30
21:41:14.948839 BD001374C Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 55.30
21:41:19.860623 T1001374C Write-Data Control setpoint: 55.30
21:41:19.954264 BD001374C Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 55.30
21:41:22.864899 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
21:41:23.154788 AC0090000 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
21:41:24.867919 T10013780 Write-Data Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:24.968686 BD0013780 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:29.864819 T10013780 Write-Data Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:29.975476 BD0013780 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:34.871981 T10013780 Write-Data Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:34.962579 BD0013780 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:39.869148 T10013780 Write-Data Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:39.969316 BD0013780 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:44.876648 T10013780 Write-Data Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:45.036810 BD0013780 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:46.617634 Command: TT=20.0
21:41:46.644994 OK
21:41:49.885243 T10013780 Write-Data Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:50.044433 BD0013780 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:52.897812 T101012EE Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.93
21:41:53.043612 BD01012EE Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.93
21:41:54.901035 T10013780 Write-Data Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:55.040548 BD0013780 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 55.50
21:41:59.899388 T10013780 Write-Data Control setpoint: 55.50
21:42:00.048521 BD0013780 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 55.50
21:42:02.902303 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
21:42:03.164029 AC0091400 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 20.00
21:42:03.894108 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
21:42:04.154296 AC0091400 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 20.00
21:42:04.905275 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
21:42:05.145596 AC0091400 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 20.00
21:42:06.897870 T10013780 Write-Data Control setpoint: 55.50
21:42:07.048515 BD0013780 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 55.50
21:42:11.895187 T90014366 Write-Data Control setpoint: 67.40
21:42:12.045281 B50014366 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 67.40
21:42:14.899715 T80640000 Read-Data  Remote override function: 00000000
21:42:15.249671 AC0640002 Read-Ack   Remote override function: 00000010
21:42:16.902272 T90014366 Write-Data Control setpoint: 67.40
21:42:17.033332 B50014366 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 67.40
21:42:21.899604 T90014366 Write-Data Control setpoint: 67.40
21:42:22.059788 B50014366 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 67.40
21:42:26.907382 T1001434C Write-Data Control setpoint: 67.30
21:42:27.027018 BD001434C Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 67.30
21:42:31.936606 T1001434C Write-Data Control setpoint: 67.30
21:42:32.025665 BD001434C Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 67.30
21:42:34.918395 T901013EB Write-Data Room setpoint: 19.92
21:42:35.066127 B501013EB Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 19.92
21:42:36.911018 T1001434C Write-Data Control setpoint: 67.30
21:42:37.031413 BD001434C Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 67.30
21:42:41.921394 T1001434C Write-Data Control setpoint: 67.30
21:42:42.067880 BD001434C Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 67.30
21:42:44.955439 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
21:42:45.242880 AC0091400 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 20.00
21:42:46.925828 T1001434C Write-Data Control setpoint: 67.30
And fragment from today

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11:20:37.259449 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:20:40.143871 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:20:40.373753 AC0090000 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:20:42.156219 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:20:42.268361 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:20:47.164262 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:20:47.265382 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:20:52.171257 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:20:52.258507 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:20:57.178130 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:20:57.276554 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:02.195364 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:02.279949 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:07.202599 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:07.362358 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:10.216753 T10101266 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.40
11:21:10.352398 BD0101266 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.40
11:21:12.219770 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:12.353984 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:17.227888 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:17.279770 Command: TT=18.5
11:21:17.307886 OK
11:21:17.348587 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:20.231586 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:21:20.601925 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
11:21:21.231983 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:21:21.603190 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
11:21:22.232847 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:21:22.464064 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
11:21:24.236833 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:24.353293 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:29.245041 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:29.353298 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:32.258548 T80640000 Read-Data  Remote override function: 00000000
11:21:32.458564 AC0640002 Read-Ack   Remote override function: 00000010
11:21:34.271667 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:34.356329 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:39.268727 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:39.367294 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:41.673602 Command: GW=0
11:21:41.763741 OK
11:21:44.285616 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:44.347380 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:49.292998 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:49.345308 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:52.297494 T10101266 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.40
11:21:52.360532 BD0101266 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.40
11:21:54.300160 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:54.363400 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:59.308165 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:21:59.447465 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:22:02.311987 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:22:02.437393 BF0090000 Unk-DataId Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:22:04.324826 T10013B19 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.10
11:22:04.443314 BD0013B19 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.10
11:22:09.331975 T90013B33 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.20
11:22:09.439689 B50013B33 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.20
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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I'm sorry, but your story leaves me with more questions than answers:
  • Did you wait for the setpoint to be picked up and that took only 30 seconds, or did you just wait 30 seconds without checking the setpoint? Normally the override setpoint message seems to appear only once ever 40 seconds. It then usually takes another 30 seconds or so before the room setpoint message comes by to confirm the setpoint was accepted. So 30 seconds is not long enough to wait blindly.
  • What does the "hand symbol" signify? I have neither an iSense nor a sixth sense, so I have no idea if the hand symbol disappearing is good or bad.
  • What happened to the setpoint after you switched to Monitor mode and before the scheduled setpoint change?
  • What happened to the setpoint after the scheduled change?
The logs you provided don't seem to cover the test I asked for. Also, in the second log the room setpoint is originally at 18.4, then you set it to 18.5. As I described before, the gateway accepts a 0.125 deviation from the requested temperature. The change is less than that, so that's not really a good test.
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

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Let me try to be more specific and answer your questions
hvxl wrote:
  • Did you wait for the setpoint to be picked up and that took only 30 seconds, or did you just wait 30 seconds without checking the setpoint? Normally the override setpoint message seems to appear only once ever 40 seconds. It then usually takes another 30 seconds or so before the room setpoint message comes by to confirm the setpoint was accepted. So 30 seconds is not long enough to wait blindly.
Answer: I've waited until the TT command was picked up via the three RemoteOverrideRoomSetpoint messages after which the hand appeared and the display showed the new setpoint. This all applies to the first log fragment below. Perhaps the third attempt tonight is more complete, please see the last log below.

Question:
  • What does the "hand symbol" signify? I have neither an iSense nor a sixth sense, so I have no idea if the hand symbol disappearing is good or bad.
Answer: From a post a bit earlier
bus147 wrote: The OpenTherm override uses the same visual indication as the manual (by turning the knob on the iSense) override.
It works if you see a hand symbol in the topright corner.
Question:
  • What happened to the setpoint after you switched to Monitor mode and before the scheduled setpoint change?
Answer: The previous (scheduled) setpoint is resumed and no visible traces of any override are to be seen on the display. Please see the second log below for a complete trace.

Question:
  • What happened to the setpoint after the scheduled change?
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Answer: If you mean after setting the gateway to monitor mode than nothing because as soon as Unk-DataId has been received the original program continues and the next program also start normally.

Question:
  • The logs you provided don't seem to cover the test I asked for. Also, in the second log the room setpoint is originally at 18.4, then you set it to 18.5. As I described before, the gateway accepts a 0.125 deviation from the requested temperature. The change is less than that, so that's not really a good test.
Answer: In my previous post I didn't included the log of the test you request. I've only described it's outcome. I posted the logs from the two times when the iSense did behave as wished. But below are the logs from this morning and tonight while doind your test. The latter has more data. (Meaning I was a bit more patient)

And one more observation if I switch to monitor mode (GW=0) the override led remains lit, but the override is cancelled as described in this post and in the last log. If I switch back to gateway mode (GW=1) the thermostat picks it up and the override begins again. Executing TT=0 clears the led and override. I've added this to the last log.

I hope that this clears it a bit up.

edit 1: added a fragment to last log containing the switch back from monitor mode and cancelling off the override via TT=0

Below is a fragment from the test you asked for from this morning:

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11:11:01.982988 T10013C66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.40
11:11:02.163038 BD0013C66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.40
11:11:05.004900 T90101270 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.44
11:11:05.146042 B50101270 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.44
11:11:06.994507 T10013C66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.40
11:11:07.148688 BD0013C66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.40
11:11:11.997949 T10013C66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.40
11:11:12.146391 BD0013C66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.40
11:11:15.006201 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:11:15.350832 AC0090000 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:11:17.013698 T10013C66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.40
11:11:17.142895 BD0013C66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.40
11:11:22.015406 T10013C00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:22.140456 BD0013C00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:23.834305 Command: TT=19.0
11:11:23.848535 OK
11:11:27.022980 T10013C00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:27.137662 BD0013C00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:32.046325 T10013C00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:32.145320 BD0013C00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:37.051781 T10013C00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:37.142098 BD0013C00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:42.059749 T10013C00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:42.219462 BD0013C00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:45.073498 T9010126E Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.43
11:11:45.223311 B5010126E Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.43
11:11:47.076587 T10013C00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:47.216493 BD0013C00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:52.094050 T10013C00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:52.233768 BD0013C00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:55.088372 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:11:55.438184 A40091300 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 19.00
11:11:56.089237 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:11:56.429546 A40091300 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 19.00
11:11:57.100076 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:11:57.339965 A40091300 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 19.00
11:11:59.093329 T10013C00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 60.00
11:11:59.213826 BD0013C00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 60.00
11:12:04.101478 T10014200 Write-Data Control setpoint: 66.00
11:12:04.222396 BD0014200 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 66.00
11:12:09.118546 T10014200 Write-Data Control setpoint: 66.00
11:12:09.229434 BD0014200 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 66.00
11:12:14.115663 T900141E6 Write-Data Control setpoint: 65.90
11:12:14.225649 B500141E6 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 65.90
11:12:18.367189 Command: GW=0
11:12:18.386353 OK
11:12:19.122765 T900141E6 Write-Data Control setpoint: 65.90
11:12:19.222355 B500141E6 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 65.90
11:12:24.130185 T900141B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 65.70
11:12:24.223221 B500141B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 65.70
11:12:27.144208 T101012EB Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.92
11:12:27.233733 BD01012EB Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.92
11:12:29.147724 T900141B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 65.70
11:12:29.227241 B500141B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 65.70
11:12:34.144451 T10014199 Write-Data Control setpoint: 65.60
11:12:34.226239 BD0014199 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 65.60
11:12:37.158688 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:12:37.225293 BF0090000 Unk-DataId Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
11:12:39.151608 T10014199 Write-Data Control setpoint: 65.60
11:12:39.224230 BD0014199 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 65.60
11:12:44.158966 T90013B99 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.60
11:12:44.225235 B50013B99 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.60
11:12:49.176667 T90013B99 Write-Data Control setpoint: 59.60
11:12:49.224435 B50013B99 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 59.60
And here's the log from tonight in which I waited until MsgId 100 appeared (after almost 5 minutes)
at 19:47:04 when as ask MsgId9 UnkId was responded the hand symbol disappeared and the program resumed

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19:37:56.427682 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:37:56.575335 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:01.433844 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:01.564360 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:04.447373 T901011F8 Write-Data Room setpoint: 17.97
19:38:04.568283 B501011F8 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 17.97
19:38:06.454928 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:06.560862 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:11.463015 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:11.567660 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:14.472178 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:38:14.673025 AC0090000 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:38:16.484590 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:16.582499 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:21.492115 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:21.672330 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:26.510054 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:26.659502 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:31.526938 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:31.657568 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:36.537321 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:36.654954 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:41.561103 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:41.657835 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:44.566595 T901011F8 Write-Data Room setpoint: 17.97
19:38:44.659361 B501011F8 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 17.97
19:38:46.568247 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:46.664363 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:51.586680 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:51.682347 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:54.599563 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:38:55.070265 AC0090000 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:38:56.612432 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:38:56.752412 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:39:01.620165 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:39:01.750014 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:39:06.627019 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:39:06.746382 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:39:07.094938 Command: TT=18.5
19:39:07.148225 OK
19:39:11.634269 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:39:11.754764 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:39:16.641403 T90013519 Write-Data Control setpoint: 53.10
19:39:16.743389 B50013519 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 53.10
19:39:21.658993 T100134E6 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.90
19:39:21.757363 BD00134E6 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.90
19:39:24.673026 T901011F8 Write-Data Room setpoint: 17.97
19:39:24.767367 B501011F8 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 17.97
19:39:26.675826 T100134E6 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.90
19:39:26.772362 BD00134E6 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.90
19:39:31.693418 T100134E6 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.90
19:39:31.843319 BD00134E6 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.90
19:39:34.697524 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:39:34.957469 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:39:35.709140 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:39:35.956657 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:39:36.699913 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:39:36.959704 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:39:38.713695 T100134E6 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.90
19:39:38.841380 BD00134E6 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.90
19:39:44.722224 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:39:44.839706 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:39:52.743535 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:39:52.841512 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:39:57.760401 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:39:57.842363 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:02.767744 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:02.937819 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:07.785102 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:07.934824 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:10.799393 T90101275 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.46
19:40:10.929248 B50101275 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.46
19:40:12.801987 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:12.941598 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:17.819476 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:17.933256 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:20.824016 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:40:21.144016 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:40:22.826349 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:22.933482 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:27.843984 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:27.941273 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:32.862212 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:33.041260 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:37.888805 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:38.038654 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:42.887328 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:43.035589 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:47.903109 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:48.042625 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:50.917860 T90101273 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.45
19:40:51.032360 B50101273 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.45
19:40:52.921147 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:53.023306 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:57.944880 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:40:58.038220 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:00.950080 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:41:01.245819 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:41:02.953064 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:03.044780 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:07.960577 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:08.111553 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:12.980209 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:13.118869 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:17.996193 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:18.109587 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:23.003582 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:23.122813 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:28.022404 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:28.111737 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:31.035181 T90101270 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.44
19:41:31.127815 B50101270 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.44
19:41:33.037767 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:33.133362 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:38.044727 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:38.215644 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:41.061967 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:41:41.329091 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:41:43.062726 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:43.262394 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:48.081547 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:48.240078 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:53.106704 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:53.203343 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:58.103767 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:41:58.202339 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:03.121054 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:03.218383 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:08.138171 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:08.308439 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:11.142561 T90101270 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.44
19:42:11.293411 B50101270 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.44
19:42:13.165579 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:13.298150 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:18.277994 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:18.600104 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:21.184132 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:42:21.509298 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:42:23.226416 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:23.378802 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:28.201696 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:28.303569 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:33.223100 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:33.326002 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:38.223583 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:38.400122 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:43.238651 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:43.416235 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:48.281021 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:48.403077 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:51.265381 T9010126E Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.43
19:42:51.510193 B5010126E Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.43
19:42:53.263478 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:53.392969 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:58.362105 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:42:58.450512 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:01.347578 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:43:01.514961 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:43:03.347746 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:03.396357 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:08.400574 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:08.459157 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:13.362093 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:13.502383 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:18.379757 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:18.489437 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:23.356488 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:23.485342 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:28.373733 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:28.477965 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:31.390358 T9010126E Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.43
19:43:31.470605 B5010126E Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.43
19:43:33.391073 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:33.523898 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:38.398916 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:38.490437 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:41.412506 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:43:41.782431 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:43:43.415113 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:43.595461 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:48.422723 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:48.562457 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:53.439668 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:53.575136 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:58.457379 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:43:58.633544 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:03.467071 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:03.574043 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:08.478526 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:08.578982 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:11.495721 T9010126E Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.43
19:44:11.695148 B5010126E Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.43
19:44:13.506783 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:13.668023 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:18.582032 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:18.666867 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:21.530412 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:44:21.864653 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:44:23.581285 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:23.693229 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:28.540340 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:28.659956 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:31.584348 T80640000 Read-Data  Remote override function: 00000000
19:44:31.865156 A40640003 Read-Ack   Remote override function: 00000011
19:44:33.597881 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:33.675848 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:38.574901 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:38.675393 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:43.639647 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:43.707840 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:48.609266 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:48.747279 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:51.659634 T9010126E Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.43
19:44:51.763695 B5010126E Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.43
19:44:53.608719 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:53.756159 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:58.674163 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:44:58.813528 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:01.664883 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:45:01.958534 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:45:03.651823 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:03.761283 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:08.668004 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:08.748515 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:13.675375 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:13.769174 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:18.702572 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:18.835473 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:23.715288 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:23.860185 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:28.725827 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:28.856127 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:31.729426 T9010126B Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.42
19:45:31.869313 B5010126B Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.42
19:45:33.742832 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:33.854737 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:38.770405 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:38.859642 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:41.775624 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:45:42.064860 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:45:43.766687 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:43.877216 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:48.792295 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:48.934530 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:53.790859 T10015A00 Write-Data Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:53.951438 BD0015A00 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 90.00
19:45:55.811887 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:45:55.975979 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:00.852710 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:00.950109 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:05.839970 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:05.940165 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:10.911367 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:11.044228 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:13.914687 T9010126B Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.42
19:46:14.011553 B5010126B Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.42
19:46:15.854372 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:15.984441 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:20.881947 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:21.031447 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:23.875877 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:46:24.245865 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
19:46:25.893151 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:26.027676 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:27.193903 Command: GW=0
19:46:27.213275 OK
19:46:30.906642 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:31.037658 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:35.914822 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:36.023493 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:40.964820 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:41.041228 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:45.937518 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:46.028244 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:50.954773 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:51.031037 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:53.959257 T9010126B Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.42
19:46:54.037683 B5010126B Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.42
19:46:55.973662 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:46:56.020190 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:47:01.003105 T10013A66 Write-Data Control setpoint: 58.40
19:47:01.040284 BD0013A66 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 58.40
19:47:04.003474 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:47:04.122282 BF0090000 Unk-DataId Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:47:05.997456 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:06.123257 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:11.013745 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:11.123355 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:16.020974 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:16.117992 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:21.048302 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:21.121230 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:26.046941 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:26.126362 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:31.062758 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:31.133409 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:34.067381 T101011EE Write-Data Room setpoint: 17.93
19:47:34.133228 BD01011EE Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 17.93
19:47:36.095732 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:36.209732 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:41.094626 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:41.214261 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:44.101251 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:47:44.213282 BF0090000 Unk-DataId Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:47:46.100885 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:46.208245 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:51.131903 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:51.206338 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:56.148792 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:47:56.262858 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:48:01.160523 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:48:01.211292 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:48:06.165795 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:48:06.224240 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:48:11.188999 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:48:11.309363 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:48:14.184585 T101011F0 Write-Data Room setpoint: 17.94
19:48:14.309000 BD01011F0 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 17.94
19:48:16.187131 T90013466 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.40
19:48:16.306914 B50013466 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.40
19:48:21.208759 T10013480 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.50
19:48:21.304163 BD0013480 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.50
19:48:24.218607 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:48:24.304452 BF0090000 Unk-DataId Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
19:48:26.232264 T10013480 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.50
19:48:26.296221 BD0013480 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.50
19:48:31.223269 T10013480 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.50
19:48:31.308461 BD0013480 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.50
19:48:36.236300 T10013480 Write-Data Control setpoint: 52.50
19:48:36.300508 BD0013480 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 52.50
20:40:33.609323 T900133B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.70
20:40:33.728490 B500133B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.70
20:40:36.623179 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:40:36.719375 BF0090000 Unk-DataId Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:40:38.626973 T900133B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.70
20:40:38.709650 B500133B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.70
20:40:43.644192 T900133B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.70
20:40:43.719367 B500133B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.70
20:40:48.660715 T900133B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.70
20:40:48.711841 B500133B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.70
20:40:53.982655 T900133B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.70
20:40:54.763868 B500133B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.70
20:40:58.694695 T900133B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.70
20:40:58.922529 B500133B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.70
20:41:03.722176 T900133B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.70
20:41:03.802298 B500133B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.70
20:41:06.706159 T901011FD Write-Data Room setpoint: 17.99
20:41:06.816868 B501011FD Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 17.99
20:41:08.718660 T900133B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.70
20:41:08.810290 B500133B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.70
20:41:13.579545 Command: GW=1
20:41:13.599114 OK
20:41:13.735852 T900133B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.70
20:41:13.815602 B500133B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.70
20:41:16.750236 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:41:17.012290 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
20:41:17.741409 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:41:18.122115 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
20:41:18.742777 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:41:19.013139 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
20:41:20.745992 T900139B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:20.896462 B500139B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:25.763693 T900139B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:25.903982 B500139B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:30.770739 T900139B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:30.901207 B500139B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:35.788068 T900139B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:35.898122 B500139B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:40.805061 T900139B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:40.890831 B500139B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:45.812326 T900139B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:45.923059 B500139B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:48.826609 T9010127A Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.48
20:41:48.996987 B5010127A Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.48
20:41:50.840484 T900139B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:50.989823 B500139B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:55.857978 T900139B3 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:55.988385 B500139B3 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.70
20:41:58.851614 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:41:59.269737 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
20:42:00.865157 T10013999 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:00.994014 BD0013999 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:05.881953 T10013999 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:06.002184 BD0013999 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:10.900561 T10013999 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:10.993353 BD0013999 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:15.898309 T10013999 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:15.987644 BD0013999 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:20.913640 T10013999 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:20.995601 BD0013999 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:25.911706 T10013999 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:26.012363 BD0013999 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:28.914478 T10101278 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.47
20:42:29.008254 BD0101278 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.47
20:42:30.918721 T10013999 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:31.093501 BD0013999 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.60
20:42:35.945486 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:42:36.085596 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:42:38.940543 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:42:39.230981 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
20:42:40.942043 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:42:41.086230 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:42:45.958542 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:42:46.073604 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:42:50.975357 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:42:51.083466 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:42:55.975837 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:42:56.076332 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:00.983576 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:01.085358 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:06.007732 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:06.095397 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:09.003178 T90101275 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.46
20:43:09.102751 B50101275 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.46
20:43:11.001988 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:11.102382 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:16.022768 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:16.183528 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:19.025555 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:43:19.295380 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
20:43:21.066640 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:21.170356 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:26.047268 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:26.175413 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:31.060326 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:31.204319 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:36.080242 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:36.187990 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:41.098821 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:41.195151 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:46.115550 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:46.266097 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:49.119462 T90101273 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.45
20:43:49.269457 B50101273 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.45
20:43:51.138874 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:51.268284 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:56.149408 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:56.264361 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:43:59.153698 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:43:59.484338 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
20:44:01.166681 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:01.267988 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:06.171701 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:06.261362 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:11.181833 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:11.264407 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:16.187773 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:16.377906 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:21.198789 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:21.376017 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:26.233112 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:26.370958 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:29.238400 T90101273 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.45
20:44:29.374050 B50101273 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.45
20:44:31.250457 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:31.372231 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:36.248441 T90013980 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:36.371269 B50013980 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.50
20:44:39.251884 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:44:39.561650 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
20:44:41.273324 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:44:41.360323 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:44:46.274599 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:44:46.369130 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:44:49.294348 T80640000 Read-Data  Remote override function: 00000000
20:44:49.578379 A40640003 Read-Ack   Remote override function: 00000011
20:44:51.296434 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:44:51.579704 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:44:56.319328 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:44:56.446749 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:01.334566 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:01.435049 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:06.377417 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:06.443318 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:09.354758 T90101270 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.44
20:45:09.455644 B50101270 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.44
20:45:11.367732 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:11.442789 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:16.378343 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:16.456392 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:19.391093 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:45:19.670756 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
20:45:21.383316 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:21.535487 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:26.400369 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:26.570318 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:31.409159 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:31.533594 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:36.433926 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:36.538907 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:41.430612 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:41.532498 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:46.458800 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:46.542608 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:49.462734 T90101270 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.44
20:45:49.602981 B50101270 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.44
20:45:51.475681 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:51.626782 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:56.483110 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:56.663327 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:45:59.487217 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:45:59.739703 A40091280 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 18.50
20:46:00.963697 Command: TT=0
20:46:00.983871 OK
20:46:01.489343 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:01.629752 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:06.508538 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:06.668064 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:11.525477 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:11.795032 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:16.533822 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:16.842285 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:21.550582 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:21.799113 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:26.566455 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:26.774408 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:29.582338 T90101270 Write-Data Room setpoint: 18.44
20:46:29.941258 B50101270 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 18.44
20:46:31.575630 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:31.793637 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:36.578520 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:36.708049 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:39.585204 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:46:39.925545 AC0090000 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:46:40.586604 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:46:40.936108 AC0090000 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:46:41.607363 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:46:41.927988 AC0090000 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:46:43.610580 T10013966 Write-Data Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:43.719590 BD0013966 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 57.40
20:46:48.618165 T10013366 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.40
20:46:48.719351 BD0013366 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.40
20:46:53.625290 T10013366 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.40
20:46:53.722374 BD0013366 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.40
20:46:58.642295 T10013366 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.40
20:46:58.734460 BD0013366 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.40
20:47:03.649667 T10013366 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.40
20:47:03.810274 BD0013366 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.40
20:47:08.656764 T10013366 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.40
20:47:08.807051 BD0013366 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.40
20:47:11.661158 T101011F3 Write-Data Room setpoint: 17.95
20:47:11.811727 BD01011F3 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 17.95
20:47:13.689876 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:13.803685 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:18.694548 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:18.811833 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:21.700270 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:47:22.015836 AC0090000 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:47:23.701535 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:23.806379 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:28.715940 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:28.806015 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:33.733492 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:33.815405 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:38.738245 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:38.915673 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:43.744308 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:43.897624 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:48.774793 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:48.904157 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:51.789156 T101011F5 Write-Data Room setpoint: 17.96
20:47:51.900370 BD01011F5 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 17.96
20:47:53.776030 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:53.924514 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:58.812375 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:47:58.899629 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:01.792158 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:48:02.100251 AC0090000 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:48:03.806465 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:03.904157 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:08.819008 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:08.935059 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:13.831055 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:13.921352 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:18.847425 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:18.986742 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:23.848438 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:23.994453 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:28.873263 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:28.994222 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:31.884487 T101011F5 Write-Data Room setpoint: 17.96
20:48:31.987652 BD01011F5 Write-Ack  Room setpoint: 17.96
20:48:33.889737 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:33.993255 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:38.896070 T90013380 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:38.992307 B50013380 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.50
20:48:41.891033 T00090000 Read-Data  Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:48:42.201052 AC0090000 Read-Ack   Remote override room setpoint: 0.00
20:48:43.913709 T10013399 Write-Data Control setpoint: 51.60
20:48:44.056269 BD0013399 Write-Ack  Control setpoint: 51.60
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

Post by hvxl »

OK, so that won't work either. I'll try to make the experimental firmware you asked about. I don't know when I will have time to do that though. It may be a while.

The second log does show something that may explain another phenomenon that has been reported though, to wit: The override is sometimes released after some amount of time.

When you first set the override setpoint to 18.50, it comes back as 18.46. But it keeps dropping over time and it's only 18.42 by the time you switch the gateway to monitor mode. I have no idea where it is trying to go, possibly all the way to 18.00. But if you would have let it, at some point it would have deviated more than 0.125 from 18.50. At that point the gateway would release the override and the setpoint would return to the scheduled temperature.

I'm not sure if this only happens when the initial setpoint is still busy trying to reach its target, or always. But it makes the whole thing quite unreliable. The setpoint override will apparently only work if certain criteria, that can not all be checked over the opentherm interface, have been met.

In your earlier test that seemed to work, this may also have happened just around the time of the scheduled change. The only way to tell for which reason the schedule was resumed would be with a log of the event.

With all of these symptoms/bugs we've seen, I can't escape the impression that the iSense is really not a thermostat you want to use for home automation.
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Re: Overriding temperature setpoint with OTG and iSense

Post by bus147 »

I'll capture a longer trace tomorrow, to determine how to deviation develops over a longer period. And post the results.

Regarding the firmware, why did you keep the override state when switching to monitor mode? I'm not implying that's a bug just curious for the design decision.
Looking forward to a test firmware with only the second bit set. If it works out perhaps you introduce a new command TP (override temperature but respect next program change) which only sets the second bit.

Thank you very much.

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Wholeheartedly I fully agree that the iSense isn't very suited for integration and communication with any kind of home automation system in it's present form. But lets face it, no domestic heating control is suited for that in my opinion. No manufacturer supports any device but it's own brand. Some boiler manufacturers simply exclude any support on thermostats not their own. And usage patterns like what we want are not implemented, wrong implemented. When the manufacturer is contacted about this the usual reply is that the device is not intended for such usage. Enduser fine-grained HVAC control systems like Honeywell EvoHome are also completely proprietary. Complete control is possible if you build your own (physical) user interface. Enter the realm of building control systems. Suddenly everything is possible again. You'll find KNX, Profibus, ModBus, CAN (yes almost everything is wired), every device can be controlled via 0-10V or 4-20mA current or something digital. PID thermostats, cascade controllers for boilers and multiple pumps, plc's. All being controlled by custom control panels or applications. Really high end domotica systems use these techniques as well and present you with a nice gui on a free ipad. But this far to complex and costly for most of us. I did select my Quinta boiler not only because of the cascade possibility but also for having the option off adding such interfaces as add-on cards. These 0-10V temperature or power interfaces are also available for the Calenta. So if, and this is a big if, it doesn't work out via a regular domestic thermostat you can always go for a more costly solution. Choice!
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