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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby Lucien » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:56 pm

TheHogNL wrote:Factory reset is safe. You could also remove the rrd files etc manually but just factory reset will be easiest.
You will probably see an activation screen but the root scripts will kick in a few seconds later to activate your toon on the fly


Unfortunately, somehow my meteradapter died during trying to couple to the TOON. Even on an un-rooted Toon it flashes one time at power up but is not 'seen' by Toon during 'koppelen'.
Prior to the Factory Reset my measurements were good using my S0 connection

I have no idea why and how this happened. My other adapter (not useful for Solar) does connect fine.

What can go faulty on a meteradapter?
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby marcelr » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:09 pm

Not a lot.
I once had one with a loose power connector inside, but that's about it.

Did you reset the meteradapter prior to coupling (push the small button on the side and hold until the LEDs flash, after ca 10 s)?
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby TheHogNL » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:31 pm

Yes you need to make sure you have reset the meteradapter. Also try in the 'advanced' option of adding meteradapters to reset the meteradapter. The +10s button trick should work even better though.
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby Lucien » Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:55 pm

The reset did the trick !! Thanks again for all your help !!
Now fresh data, fresh setup and a sunny day ahead of us. Hopefully, everything works fine tomorrow.
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby Lucien » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:29 pm

Lucien wrote:The reset did the trick !! Thanks again for all your help !!
Now fresh data, fresh setup and a sunny day ahead of us. Hopefully, everything works fine tomorrow.


Everything works very well now !!
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby marcelr » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:11 pm

Congratulations, well done!
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby vso » Fri May 22, 2020 12:25 am

if i understand correctly

https://www.kwhmeter.nl/Webwinkel-Produ ... A-LCD.html
with 6599-1500-0201 connected via "audio" cable should work ? (cut off 1 end and connect the internal cables ..

My inverter is the only connected item ..
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby marcelr » Fri May 22, 2020 2:30 pm

Just read this thread (all of it). It's all there ...
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby vso » Fri May 22, 2020 3:00 pm

vso wrote:if i understand correctly

https://www.kwhmeter.nl/Webwinkel-Produ ... A-LCD.html
with 6599-1500-0201 connected via "audio" cable should work ? (cut off 1 end and connect the internal cables ..

My inverter is the only connected item ..


This is the extract of the 9 pages .. as i currently understand ..

marcelr wrote:Just read this thread (all of it). It's all there ...


So if the 20,- euro thing works as i understand correctly the only down side could be that power is also counted when the invert is using power (maybe a diode or so between it ? dunno)
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby marcelr » Fri May 22, 2020 5:05 pm

Well, does that answer your question?
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby TheHogNL » Fri May 22, 2020 6:14 pm

vso wrote:
So if the 20,- euro thing works as i understand correctly the only down side could be that power is also counted when the invert is using power (maybe a diode or so between it ? dunno)


A diode would be very stupid. The small watts for the return is so small that you probably won't notice it on your toon. Well.. it will show 1 or 2 watts 'generated' power in the night. I don't care.
If you want better, get a kwh meter that counts only one way. For example the Inepro Pro1 which Eneco used to installed before they switched to the zwave qubino kwh meter.
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby vso » Fri May 22, 2020 9:31 pm

marcelr wrote:Well, does that answer your question?


just want to know what figures (ballpark range) I have to deal with if i buy the cheap one .. a few Watt(s) 0 -50 for example is acceptable miscalculation range (less is better ofcourse)

and no there thread contains in my opnion a lot of remarks / iffy things .. so just want to know yes/no .. and the ballpark range
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby Ron_nl » Fri May 22, 2020 9:49 pm

I am using this one Image
Search for DDS1717.
This one stops (in my case) the count completely.

Using a diode is not a option, you just cut half a phase..
And your inverter needs AC power to function.

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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby vso » Fri May 22, 2020 10:32 pm

thx diode was a example please forget .. it was stupid of me

DDS1717 is to wide for me, but thx for the suggestion ! appriciated anyway ..
The https://www.kwhmeter.nl/Webwinkel-Produ ... A-LCD.html) is perfect i have just enough room for this width in the breakerbox (only this slot) is left, otherwise a whole new one needs to be installed.
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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

Postby marcelr » Sat May 23, 2020 1:07 pm

Depending on the type of S0 contact you can just attach a lead along the lines of the sketches drawn in this thread.

If you S0 contact is potential free, you will also need a power supply to your contact, and wire it such that you have active low pulses with time intervals proportional to instantaneous power output of the inverter. Timing typically 0.02s low, rest high, input impedance to signal 4k7-10kOhm, input impedance to Vcc typically 330- 1kOhm. Then your S0 connection gets recognized as a valid sensor.
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