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Re: warmwater on toon

Postby yjb » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:02 pm

Seems like I see a new TSC feature:

Summer: All temperature presets set to a fixed temperature. And of course remember the current settings, so that it can revert once switched off.
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Re: warmwater on toon

Postby Akatar » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:08 pm

Why can't summer and winter have the same hotwater settings?
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Re: warmwater on toon

Postby yjb » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:41 pm

Akatar wrote:Why can't summer and winter have the same hotwater settings?



Well they can have the same warm water settings but I was thinking about the lines of:
Home/Comfort: Dhw preheat on
Away/Sleep: Dhw preheat off

When I leave the settings like this in summertime, the house will still heat to comfort temperature on a cooler day, while that is in most cases not necessary. So the solution could be to set the schedule to permanent away during summer, buit in that case the Dhw will not preheat during the day in summertime.

So my thinking was, if I leave the program in tact during summer, but temporary adjust all 4 levels (Home/comfort/Away/Sleep) to 15 degrees, the Dhw will still be preheated during the day, but the house heating will not kick into action.

And to automate this, there could be a TSC setting which puts all 4 levels to a fixed temperature during while the Toon is in "summer" mode. In autumn, one switches off the summer mode and the original temperature levels for the 4 levels (Home/comfort/Away/Sleep) will be reinstated.

Does that make sense, or is my suggestion making things too complicated?
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Re: warmwater on toon

Postby TheHogNL » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:38 pm

Seems to be one of the solutions, maybe the best.
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Re: warmwater on toon

Postby Firesfinx » Sat May 04, 2019 1:35 pm

Hello,

This is my first post specially for this feature. A couple of months ago I bought a rooted Toon from marktplaats and am very very pleased with the integration domoticz. I think no other thermostat can compare.

My central heating is done by a Remeha Calenta 40L which has a build in boiler. After a lot of testing, I found out that when I turn DHW off, I do not have any hot water after the boiler has cooled down. I got this confirmed with the Remeha helpdesk. Basically only with DHW on it heats my (tap)water and the 40liter bioler. Turning it off or set it to ECO mode on the kettle, will turn the heating of water off and let the bioler cool down.

I also have the option to control DHW by the thermostat. This was also possible on my previous thermostat by various settings (calendar, manual, scenes or when temperature is set below a selectable value). From that I would like to say that the settings by a selectable temperature worked ideal (at least for me). I learned this after a lot of experimenting and sudden cold showers because it was time for the sleep scene.

Since my central heating is now heating by boiler 24/7 I cannot wait for you guys to see if you can implement some thing like this. It would be amazing if it can be controlled externally (like Domoticz) but also linking it to a scene like Away would save me quite a bit of money.

Please keep up the great work you guys do!
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Re: warmwater on toon

Postby newwolf » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:32 pm

yjb wrote:
Akatar wrote:Why can't summer and winter have the same hotwater settings?



Well they can have the same warm water settings but I was thinking about the lines of:
Home/Comfort: Dhw preheat on
Away/Sleep: Dhw preheat off

When I leave the settings like this in summertime, the house will still heat to comfort temperature on a cooler day, while that is in most cases not necessary. So the solution could be to set the schedule to permanent away during summer, buit in that case the Dhw will not preheat during the day in summertime.

So my thinking was, if I leave the program in tact during summer, but temporary adjust all 4 levels (Home/comfort/Away/Sleep) to 15 degrees, the Dhw will still be preheated during the day, but the house heating will not kick into action.

And to automate this, there could be a TSC setting which puts all 4 levels to a fixed temperature during while the Toon is in "summer" mode. In autumn, one switches off the summer mode and the original temperature levels for the 4 levels (Home/comfort/Away/Sleep) will be reinstated.

Does that make sense, or is my suggestion making things too complicated?


Is it possible to make this feature in TSC?
Because this is what happend recently in my house :( it was finally 19.5 at home after some warm days and Toon thought hmmm it has to be 20 :twisted: and it started to warming up. :?
For now I disabled the scheduled program, but Toon it not showing all the nice features at the moment.

Grz,
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Re: warmwater on toon

Postby TheHogNL » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:33 pm

I finally got time to put this in the TSC menu.
Two new options:
- disable preheat in away/sleep/vacation
- enable summer mode (set all setpoints to 10 degrees)

PM me for how to enter the beta test
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Re: warmwater on toon

Postby newwolf » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:52 pm

That's good News.
Love to test it :wink:
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Re: warmwater on toon

Postby newwolf » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:35 pm

Just tested it on a Toon 1 with 5.5.7
TSC had a little redesign :wink:

Activating summer-mode sets all time frames to 10c
Maybe its possible to make it your own choice?
At temperatuur it has also a summer notification "kudos"

Couldn't test the warmwater switch but it's nice :mrgreen:
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Re: warmwater on toon

Postby TheHogNL » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:51 pm

The warmwater switch will only be visible for Toons connected to opentherm boilers.
I'm thinking what would be a good reason to make the summer temperature (now 10 degrees) editable? The main reason is just not let the boiler run anytime in the summer so 10 degrees would be ok.
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Re: warmwater on toon

Postby yjb » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:35 pm

Thanks for this. I will test this once I'm back home!
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