Lastige keuze

Post by **Edwin2008** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:59 pm

Ben mij aan het orienteren voor een rfx module. Als ik de lijstjes van bert goed lees zou ik nodig hebben om oregon en kaku modules te kunnen ontvangen en besturen:

1x Ethernet 433.92MHz receiver WLAN+LAN (2 ports) Order code: 84003
1x Homeseer or xPL users select an RFXmitter - 433.92MHz RFXmitter Order code: 89031

Maar nu zie ik ook een WLAN+LAN (2 ports) Order code: 88005 staan, wat is het verschil?

Als ik de manual lees wordt item 77000 (RS232 Serial Interface) geadviseerd als je een Wlan versie koopt, is deze ook nodig bij de combi WLAN+LAN (84003 of 88005) ?

Om de visonic sensoren te ontvangen zou ik de 868.95MHz receiver with wire antenna for Visonic sensors Order code: 40079 kunnen gebruiken of is wellicht de de waakzaamwonen module "Wireless PC interface - Visonic ontvanger tbv HomeSeer" http://www.waakzaamwonen.nl/catalog/pro ... v-homeseer een slimmere keuze.
Bij de afweging speelt dat als ik de waakzaamwonen module neem ik een poort vrij heb in de rfxcomm waarin ik een 310MHz receiver with antenna for US X10 Order code: 80010 kan steken zodat ik daarmee amerikaanse MS16 bewegingssensoren kan gebruiken om zo de 433 band vrij te houden. Tevens is het dan toch ook mogenlijk om alle knoppen van de keyfob te ontvangen en het alarm aan te sturen mbv van de in ontwikkeling zijnde plugin? Klopt toch?

Iemand suggesties of dingen die ik over het hoofd gezien heb.

Post by **b_weijenberg** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:27 pm

Edwin,

The 88005 has a standard transmitter and it is better to use the RFXmitter.
The best option for you is the 84003 + 89031.

The RS232 is only necessary to be able to configure the interface if you have made a configuration error in the WLAN configuration.

It is no problem to use the RFXCOM Visonic module as all MCT234 buttons are received. The range is less then range of the security sensors but if you are able to position the receiver antenna not too far from the entrance it works OK. The RFXCOM plug-in has the full software alarm panel included.

The latest versions of the LAN interfaces do not support the 310 US X10 receivers anymore.

Post by **Edwin2008** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:32 pm

Oeps, should the post be in english?
Are the 310 US sensors expelled to avoid legal issues?
Stil unclear about the difference/advantage/disadvantage between the RFXcom visonic solution and the "waakzaam wonen" solution.

Post by **b_weijenberg** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:54 pm

The latest LAN interfaces produced a little RF noise that limits the 310 receiver range. Using the 310 sensors is illegal in Europe but besides this these sensors are not using a crystal controlled transmitter and transmit very often outside the 310MHz band which will reduce the range dramatically. This explains why these US sensors are cheaper, low price = bad quality.

Ask RFXCOM users what their experience is with the RFXCOM receiver, support and plug-in possibilities and check the receiver module price.

Post by **Edwin2008** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:21 pm

Ok, so the us 310 sensors is not the way to go. If i want to do movement detection then i eather use the MS1x europe version or convert the us version to 433.
I Don't understand the "check price" 433 or 310 (80011 / 80010) are the same?
btw so i don't need the rs232 module if i go for the WLAN+LAN version, right?

remain's the rfxcom 868 or "waakzaamwonen" question. I don't expect bert to answer this one

but could someone else jump in?

Post by **Jeroen Bartels** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:05 pm

I use a (wired) LAN interface (433 Mhz receiver and latest version transmitter) and also have a 310Mhz receiver in a USB module.
Both are about 2 meters apart because of the interference mentioned by Bert. I use many MS16A motion sensors and everything is working well.
So it is possible but for the us version you will have to invest in a USB module with 310 receiver. On the other hand you are able to buy all kind of 310 stuff cheap from ebay. I would say: go for RFXCOM. Many users and knowledge on this forum for this product. And great support from Bert. P.S. personally I have more faith in a wired version instead of a wireless version.

Post by **Edwin2008** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:37 pm

decision has been made.
433 WLAN+LAN (i agree on the wired part but for 20euro more i can try both)
433 homeseer trans
868 visonic

Post by **DutchAdept** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:06 pm

I use 433.92 MS13E2 motion sensors from "Let's Automate", shipped from the U.K. (about 19 euro per unit). These don't have any brandings/text or markings on them (unlike the ones on their website's pictures), and these are very dependable with good range. When sheltered (= under a ledge/roof) they can even be used outside.