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Radiator control with x10

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:50 pm
by beverzz
Hi there,

Let me first point out that I have searched this forum but I couldn't find any useful information.

Lately I have been busy with domotica/home automation. Basicly I connected my livingroom lamps to a x10 network. Through a selfmade iPad app i've I can controll the lights.

The next step is connecting my livingroom radiator to my x10 networking. Unfortunately my house doesn't have a central thermostaat. In my house all radiators have to be turned on seperatly. My question is: is there any x10 radiator solution?

Thank you all in advanced.

Regards,
Bart

Re: Radiator control with x10

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:57 am
by jrkalf
Bart, do you mean you're using district heating at your place? District heating a.k.a. Stadsverwarming.
I'm not familiar with x10, so I can't help you with that. But perhaps there is a nice heat control system for x10.
If you can't find a x10 solution, you might want to check the fs20 section for the FHT solution.
Enjoy your stay over at domoticaforum.eu

Re: Radiator control with x10

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:14 am
by Bwired
I'm not aware of any X10 Radiator solotion.

Re: Radiator control with x10

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:30 am
by Digit
Dimming a radiator, sure sounds cool 8)

Re: Radiator control with x10

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:21 am
by beverzz
Hi jrkalf,

It's not stadsverwarming. I live in an appartment which has radiators in every room, but no thermostat.
Zwave has a similar solution. Check out: http://www.ezhome.nl/verwarming/thermostaatkranen.html. This is what i mean.

I really can't imagine that x10 has no solution for this.

Thanks you guys.

Regards,
Bart

Re: Radiator control with x10

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:06 pm
by Menno
In my home i use an 230v actuator (fom moeller) connected to a X10 module (SAIX, Xanura) for every radiator. The complete central
heating system (12 radiators) is fitted with this solution.
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Homeseer is controlling the radiators and gets the temperature info from sensors in every room.

Works great for already 2 years now.

Re: Radiator control with x10

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:19 pm
by Bwired
Agree thats a possibility, but not optimal
- Only On Off no temp settings, readings etc
- Need powerline at every radiator
- Need a box or something to install the Saix12 in

@berverzz: understand that there is not much development anymore on X10, so no new products for years now.

Re: Radiator control with x10

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:15 pm
by jrkalf
X10 clearly isn't the best for that it seems.

You could check in to the FHT system. A radiator valve, thermostat & a window sensor in a set cost € 69,95.
The thermostats can be coupled with a fhz1x000pc or a CUL device. That's the link to your home-server.

Anybody have a zwave, bidcos or 1wire alternative?

Re: Radiator control with x10

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:29 pm
by beverzz
Menno wrote:In my home i use an 230v actuator (fom moeller) connected to a X10 module (SAIX, Xanura) for every radiator. The complete central
Homeseer is controlling the radiators and gets the temperature info from sensors in every room.
Works great for already 2 years now.
Hee Menno,

Thank you for your information, very helpful.
You are suggesting to combine a radiator actuator with a SAIX12? But since my radiator is situated near a wall socket, is it possible to use a AM12 or LM12?

Where can I buy this Moeller 230v acuator?

Thanks again!

Re: Radiator control with x10

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:57 pm
by Bwired
Yes it works with Those devices, saix is internal so for in a socket and is also 2 ways, so status control is available.
AM12 etc has no status control

Re: Radiator control with x10

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:02 pm
by Menno
Am12 is indeed possible.

Just search for Moeller Xcomfort radiator valve on Google.