Your Bwired porch Dome camera

Post by **Digit** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:56 am

I guess basically what you're saying is: why don't machines have the same intelligence as us, humans?
And what you're looking for, is an automation system with a plug into your brain, so it can read your mind and whisper things into your ear. We are just not there yet...

Post by **bwkevin** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:26 am

Yes Digit, I guess the ultimate answer would be to have a human assistant!

Post by **Snelvuur** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:00 pm

So basicly he's saying he wants to get married.

// Erik (binkey.nl)

Post by **l0rien** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:09 am

Now we're talking

I am a 'techie', but just not a hardware techie. My work is actually looking into getting more intelligence into simulations for use in training. And like you say bwkevin, we still have a very long way to come. There is some very cool stuff going on, but those things are mostly specific for one single purpose, like one task for one situation in a game/simulation.

To be able to do the things you (and I) would like, the system needs to have a model of the user. Know what its needs are at any one point in time. That is so terribly complex that I'm not out of work for the next 50+ years

Luckily, current computing power makes relatively simple things like facial recognition are fairly easy to do, provided you have a clear picture of the person. And for that I need to know which camera can provide that in various weather and lighting conditions.

Post by **Digit** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:54 am

Ok; so you have a good camera and you can identify who you (the system, that is) are dealing with. What will that help you? Next comes tracing where the user is going, what he/she is doing and particularly, why. Why do i sometimes keep my working clothes on when i come home in the evening? The system will never know; till the day i'll be "plugged in"..

Neo.[:o)]

Post by **Bwired** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:29 am

Blue pill or Red pill [:)]

Post by **bwkevin** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:57 am

Getting back to porch cameras

, I agree with IOrien and Digit that more sophistication is needed. I like the neural intelligence concept that iOmniscient (http://www.iomniscient.com/products.htm) provide. Their software is more useful than just a braindead camera and probably could be applied to a home security situation too.

However, at a lesser cost (zero) I'm starting to get creative with the porch cam and saving a lot of wasted time. Because since I installed it I would spend about 5-10 mins a day reviewing the last 24 hours of activity. It uses motion dection which only records 5 secs before and after movement, but even at the maximum 3x review speed that turned out to be quite time-consuming.

The breakthrough came over the last few days when I've discovered 90% of activity comes from our 2 cats on that camera. What a great life they lead on my porch! Even asleep, a slight twitch of a tail is enough to roll the camera for another 10 seconds.

So I reset the motion sensor boxes to exclude everything at cat height and their wander path, and so removed most of the useless activity.

The human brain triumphs again - and without pills, Pieter!

Post by **Bwired** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:03 pm

Yes there are motion sensors which only register movements above the X kilo. You can also examine the movement in the image itself by X percentage pixel movement. I do that with my Mobotix camera as well http://www.bwired.nl/Cammobotix.asp with good result.
Pieter

Post by **JMeredith** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:47 am

I have an Axis 2120 on my front porch and I am curious how to get the last x images after it senses motion. I have the motion alarm set up to capture 2 pre-alarm images every 2 seconds and 3 post-alarm images every 2 seconds... but how do you always show the last 5 images on your website?

great projects by the way!!

I am slowly getting there, I have a sensatronics u16 at home which I am using to get inside, outside, and hottub temps... garage doors open/close...driveway and living room motion, and water level in the cat's water bowl.

currently Im just watching real time XML feed, I really want to get it into a database to start looking at trends...

thanks,

-J

Post by **Bwired** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:56 am

HI

Check the Axis API at:
http://www.axis.com/techsup/cam_servers ... _index.php

Code: Select all

Example 1: Create an image buffer, named DOOR1, with 10 pre-alarm images and 15 post-alarm images. 
http://myserver/axis-cgi/buffer/command.cgi?do=start&buffername=DOOR1&prealarm=10&postalarm=15&uri=ftp://jpg/1/image.jpg

Example 2: Stop a buffer. 
http://myserver/axis-cgi/buffer/command.cgi?do=stop&buffername=DOOR1
 
Example 3: Get images from the buffer. 
http://myserver/axis-cgi/buffer/command.cgi?do=get&buffername=DOOR1&index=1
 
Example 4: Create an image buffer, named DOOR2. The images should be taken from camera 1 and have a resolution of 320x240 pixels. Five post-alarm images should be stored. 

http://myserver/axis-cgi/buffer/command.cgi?do=start&buffername=DOOR2
&postalarm=5&uri=ftp://jpg/image.jpg?resolution=320x240&camera=1

<hr noshade size="1">Pieter Knuvers
http://www.bwired.nl Online House in the netherlands. Domotica, Home Automation.

Post by **JMeredith** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:31 pm

Pieter,

that API would be great but I am running v2.32 firmware and the API isnt supported

there are manual settings for the pre & post alarm buffer... that part is working fine. I get 5 files sent to FTP on every alarm...
so after a week of in & out traffic I will likey have hundreds of images saved to the FTP directory I would like to be able to see only the LAST 5 that were sent...
should I try to write some ASP script that will look at the filenames (which contain the date and time) or is there a better way?
are you storing images in a folder only, or are you linking to them via a database? how much "history" do you keep? we use the frontdoor 20 times a day so I could quickly get thousands of images...

-J

Post by **Bwired** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:37 pm

We just talk about is in this topic below
http://www.domoticaforum.eu/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4016
and check this asp sample, with some tuning it can be done.
http://www.asp101.com/articles/john/ima ... efault.asp

<hr noshade size="1">Pieter Knuvers
http://www.bwired.nl Online House in the netherlands. Domotica, Home Automation.

Post by **Bwired** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:41 pm

are you sure no API?
check this for firmware 2.x
http://www.axis.com/techsup/cam_servers ... tp_api.php

<hr noshade size="1">Pieter Knuvers
http://www.bwired.nl Online House in the netherlands. Domotica, Home Automation.