Uhmm, what is your use case if you don't have a Toon2 or any STRV ?timkoers wrote:I've got the use case and I am willing to code it.
The only problem, I only have a Toon 1 and no STRV's
Without a Toon2 you cannot start coding this....
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Uhmm, what is your use case if you don't have a Toon2 or any STRV ?timkoers wrote:I've got the use case and I am willing to code it.
The only problem, I only have a Toon 1 and no STRV's
We are thinking about switching to a setup like this. If it much efficienter than heating the entire house and most importantly. When the living room (where the Toon is) is already up to temperature, the rest of the house is not heated.Toonz wrote:Uhmm, what is your use case if you don't have a Toon2 or any STRV ?timkoers wrote:I've got the use case and I am willing to code it.
The only problem, I only have a Toon 1 and no STRV's
Without a Toon2 you cannot start coding this....
TheHogNL wrote:I would then recommend using the toon for the living room and install a plugwise adam between the toon (keteladapter) and the boiler. Then use other plugwise equipment to control the radiators in the rest of the home. Adam will then start the boiler if there is heat request from one of the sources (including the toon). You will only need to close the living room somehow (with a 2-way valve or something) to not heat the living room if only the rest of the house needs heating.
I'm still not sure if I am going to actually install the STRV's and the Toon2, but could you introduce me a little to the source code that needs modifications. You can PM me if that's easier.TheHogNL wrote: The STRV support for the Toon2 is just not production ready and there is no rooted Toon user using it.
You need to add code. Nothing to modify.timkoers wrote: I'm still not sure if I am going to actually install the STRV's and the Toon2, but could you introduce me a little to the source code that needs modifications. You can PM me if that's easier.
True! But I'd like to do something for the communityTheHogNL wrote: It is easier to write some python code on a rasperry pi towards the z-wave enabled STRV's
This sounds like very advanced terminology. Do you have anything that I can read to get a better understandig of these kind of details?TheHogNL wrote: You need to add code. Nothing to modify.
You need BXT listeners to listen for STRV's who want heating. Then you need BXT commands to set a high set temp (on the toon thermostat) so that the boiler starts
It isn't simplertimkoers wrote:True! But I'd like to do something for the communityTheHogNL wrote: It is easier to write some python code on a rasperry pi towards the z-wave enabled STRV's
This sounds like very advanced terminology. Do you have anything that I can read to get a better understandig of these kind of details?TheHogNL wrote: You need to add code. Nothing to modify.
You need BXT listeners to listen for STRV's who want heating. Then you need BXT commands to set a high set temp (on the toon thermostat) so that the boiler starts
I've got in touch with the development team of the Toon and they are planning to have a proof of concept of STRV's with a boiler, ready in Q1 and to deliver it in Q2. Presumably next year.TheHogNL wrote:It isn't simplertimkoers wrote:True! But I'd like to do something for the communityTheHogNL wrote: It is easier to write some python code on a rasperry pi towards the z-wave enabled STRV's
This sounds like very advanced terminology. Do you have anything that I can read to get a better understandig of these kind of details?TheHogNL wrote: You need to add code. Nothing to modify.
You need BXT listeners to listen for STRV's who want heating. Then you need BXT commands to set a high set temp (on the toon thermostat) so that the boiler starts
I checked again. The Toon STRV implementation adds no thermostat intellegence. It only displays the current state of each STRV (each zone) including if it is heating or not and the set/current temp. Plus it can set the settemp per STRV manually or per schedule. But the heuristics of when to start heating etc. is all up to the STRVs.
So to make it a complete solution for a system without constant waterflow (like district heating or 'weersafhankelijk') you need to monitor the heating requests of each STRV and depending on that enable or disable the boiler. And another piece of code replacing the 'weekly schedule' code of the Toon because we can not set that with the Eneco app.
I myself think this is too much to ask for and much easier to be done on a domoticz or homeassistant system where you can build scripts like this yourself.
Wow nice info! How did you get in touch with them? For us it is very hard to get any contact with quby.timkoers wrote:
I've got in touch with the development team of the Toon and they are planning to have a proof of concept of STRV's with a boiler, ready in Q1 and to deliver it in Q2. Presumably next year.
You've got mail!TheHogNL wrote:Wow nice info! How did you get in touch with them? For us it is very hard to get any contact with quby.timkoers wrote:
I've got in touch with the development team of the Toon and they are planning to have a proof of concept of STRV's with a boiler, ready in Q1 and to deliver it in Q2. Presumably next year.
Plugwise Adam works really well with Toon.TheHogNL wrote:I would then recommend using the toon for the living room and install a plugwise adam between the toon (keteladapter) and the boiler. Then use other plugwise equipment to control the radiators in the rest of the home. Adam will then start the boiler if there is heat request from one of the sources (including the toon). You will only need to close the living room somehow (with a 2-way valve or something) to not heat the living room if only the rest of the house needs heating.
The STRV support for the Toon2 is just not production ready and there is no rooted Toon user using it.
Toon supports zwave STRV's and not zigbee. The Toon is made for these STRV's : https://www.robbshop.nl/radiator-thermostaat-poppArcidodo wrote:I want to buy some zigbee radiator valves, but is there an list of supported valves for the toon? And is there any News about this feature?