Plugwise and Linux

by **Pieterpaul** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:23 pm

I am considering adding Plugwise to my home automation system. The current parts (combination of self-made drivers and xpl-perl) run on my Linux server. Since the server also acts as firewall, router, storage-server, etc., I really don't want to replace it with windows. And because the main advantage of Plugwise (compared to e.g. Xanura) is power saving, adding another server is also not an option.
I assume/know that there is no native Linux version of 'the Source'. Has anyone (succesfully or not) tried to run the Plugwise Source in Linux+Wine? Or in a virtual machine (with Windows) on top of Linux? If either approach works, I could consider Plugwise for this year's Christmas gift [:)]

Thanks, PP

by **Mdamen** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:29 pm

A virtual machine should work, it's just a USB device so with for example VMware Server you can "redirect" the USB device to the guest OS, in this case a Windows installation.

I am going to inspect the protocol plugwise uses, to integrate it within my own domotica system (also linux) the plugwise kit is still on it's way. I expect to receive it tommorow [:)] Don't expect to much of it though.. I haven't even seen the device yet.

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Maarten Damen

www.maartendamen.com

by **Snelvuur** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:47 pm

And that coming from a microsoft certified systems engineer

well i hope you succeed.. would also be a nice addition to domotiga..

// Erik (binkey.nl)

by **Mdamen** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:13 pm

Lol I'm not that Microsoft minded, I would rather call myself open-minded. I'm open to any system [:)]

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Maarten Damen

www.maartendamen.com

by **Pieterpaul** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:56 pm

My experiences with USB and VMware are not always that good, so I hope the plugwise dongle works 'properly'. This was pretty much my question: does the dongle work in vmware?
I agree that understanding the plugwise protocol (to be able to make your own driver) is much better than having to use their code. But I'm afraid that reverse engineering their protocol will take longer than december 31st, so I have my hopes on vmware/wine [;)]

by **t006** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:20 am

Antwoord van plugwise op de vraag of ze Linux/BSD gaan ondersteunen in de toekomst. Een klein beetje ontwijkend antwoord.

Geacht heer/mevrouw,

Helaas is er (op dit moment) geen versie beschikbaar voor linux.

Middels een virtuele omgeving (zoals Wine) schijnt het ook lastig te zijn om ons systeem te laten draaien onder Linux, aangezien dot net 2.0 (sp1) geinstalleerd dient te zijn. Op diverse fora vindt u hier meer informatie over. Mocht u dot net 2.0 (sp1) binnen Wine hebben draaien, dan moet het in principe mogelijk zijn onze software 'de Source' te gebruiken onder Linux.

Vanzelfsprekend kunnen wij dit niet ondersteunen, maar het staat u natuurlijk vrij om hier experimenteel mee aan de slag te gaan.

Mocht er een officiele versie van 'de Source' voor Linux uit komen, dan zullen we hiervan op de hoogte stellen.

Wij hopen u voldoende te hebben geinformeerd en bedanken u voor uw interesse in onze Plugwise oplossingen.

by **Pieterpaul** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:05 am

Dat is, zeg maar, geen antwoord [:(]

by **wwolkers** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:27 pm

Well, it's an answer at least

UPS currently had my plugwise box, so hopefully I'll have it today! would be nice, I've got time to play tomorrow evening

First see how it runs under windows, then test under wine, and then see what Linux thinks about the USB dongle.
Most probably it's a USB <-> RS232 converter, which would make it a bit easier.

by **TANE** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:37 pm

USB dongle is just a converter to RS232 using FTDI chip.
Biggest challenge is understanding the network concept en encryption.
This is not a easy job..

by **Snelvuur** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:55 pm

they say you are free to experiment under linux. if that is the case, ask them for some protocol information.. i mean, they can at least help you out a bit if they want to support a bigger group of people.

// Erik (binkey.nl)

by **Mdamen** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:13 pm

I'm making some progress with the protocol.
I am already able to switch a module on and off. I hope to release a "proof of concept" really soon. Won't have time until the weekend though [:(]

Just a little bit more patience [:)]

--
Maarten Damen

www.maartendamen.com

by **Rene** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:19 pm

@Maarten: Maybe you could share some of your findings and I will be assisting you as soon as my 2 sets arrive (today according to DHL).

Rene.

by **wwolkers** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:09 pm

@Maarten: Nice!

I've got my box here at work, so I'll be looking into it tonight and tomorrow.
Any chance you could share some info already?

by **Snelvuur** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:37 pm

on/off is allready a nice feature...

// Erik (binkey.nl)

by **RDNZL** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:03 pm

Starting to add some Plugwise serial port code to my program now ;-)

Ron.

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