Hi all,my central heating system consists of a Gasoline- boiler (hope this is the right term [:)]) that is started by a burner . The burnr is obviously controlled by rooms thermostat.
The block boiler-burner is electrically controlled by a AD10-din module (x10). So I can turn on/off by x10. What i need is: i'd like to know how many times in a day , and how long was the time, burner and boiler have been on. What hardware do i need?. My HA software is homeseer. Thanks guys!
Winter is coming, how to monitor heating system?
Winter is coming, how to monitor heating system?
In my case I have 3 leds on my HVAC system
Led 1 Burner on/off
Led 2 Warm water is asked
Led 3 House heating is asked
Over those leds I placed 2 wires with a little circuit that switch a very small relay when the LED goes on and off.
The relay you can connect to a Xanura IMX10 or a Visonic MCT-100.
Thats the the Bwired is measuring the On and Off time of the different parts.
Then I have a Plugwise module the measure the power usage and be able to switch the device completely Off or On.
I also have a Xanura SAX15 in the Hvac system (Potential free input) to switch the house heating On or Off.
I still cant handle my Nefit Hvac (dawn Nefit) with Openthem
A nice device to have is a Litle wireless circuit with 3 LDR sensors which you can put over the Leds to see when its On or Off.
You can use this device in all kinds of control situations as long the device has a statusled.
Led 1 Burner on/off
Led 2 Warm water is asked
Led 3 House heating is asked
Over those leds I placed 2 wires with a little circuit that switch a very small relay when the LED goes on and off.
The relay you can connect to a Xanura IMX10 or a Visonic MCT-100.
Thats the the Bwired is measuring the On and Off time of the different parts.
Then I have a Plugwise module the measure the power usage and be able to switch the device completely Off or On.
I also have a Xanura SAX15 in the Hvac system (Potential free input) to switch the house heating On or Off.
I still cant handle my Nefit Hvac (dawn Nefit) with Openthem
A nice device to have is a Litle wireless circuit with 3 LDR sensors which you can put over the Leds to see when its On or Off.
You can use this device in all kinds of control situations as long the device has a statusled.
Winter is coming, how to monitor heating system?
Hi Pieter , big problem! i don't have any leds... (there is a red led that turns on when there's a system failure). other ideas? isn't there some x10 device that simply collects data?
Winter is coming, how to monitor heating system?
You need to connect any data collecting devices to something.
are there any relays in the HVAC switching the pumps etc, you can use those.
But that's usual a bit harder to accomplish!
are there any relays in the HVAC switching the pumps etc, you can use those.
But that's usual a bit harder to accomplish!
Winter is coming, how to monitor heating system?
The burner is swiched on by a relays! then it makes boiler start. which is the data collecting device?
Winter is coming, how to monitor heating system?
I don't understand by what you mean with "which is the data collecting device?"
If there are relay's there might be a possibility to connect a device like the Xanura IMX10 to it.
Whenever the relay's is switched to On the IMX15 is sending an X10 ON command over the powerline and vica versa.
If there are relay's there might be a possibility to connect a device like the Xanura IMX10 to it.
Whenever the relay's is switched to On the IMX15 is sending an X10 ON command over the powerline and vica versa.
Winter is coming, how to monitor heating system?
Sorry, but i'm not so clever: i found that imx10 sends commands like on off dim to x10 actuators. so why do you say "Whenever the relay's is switched to On the IMX15 is sending an X10 ON command over the powerline and vica versa " what else don't i know?
NORMALLY
* relays is turned on by thermostat (room's temp. low)
* relays turns on burner
* i want something that collects how long burner was on ( on time / off time , report )
where do i plug imx10 ? how it does sends informations to homeseer to collect data?
Thanks ( please consider i'm a newbie, and must learn always from you gurus!)
NORMALLY
* relays is turned on by thermostat (room's temp. low)
* relays turns on burner
* i want something that collects how long burner was on ( on time / off time , report )
where do i plug imx10 ? how it does sends informations to homeseer to collect data?
Thanks ( please consider i'm a newbie, and must learn always from you gurus!)
Winter is coming, how to monitor heating system?
You Program the IMX10 to act like a 4 port input device:
example:
If you connect the Blue wire to the Brown wire it will send an X10 ON Command (with address) If you unconnect them an OFF command is send.
The same goes for the Red, Orange and Yellow wires (un)connected to Blue.
If you make an event in Homeseer you can log the On and the Off command. This way you know how long the device was On or Off and also the realtime status.
But to attach the IMX10 wires to the relays in the Hvac can be done if you have some knowledge about electronics, and might need some additional components depending on the type of relay. Thats why its much easier to do something with Status leds (if you have them [:)] )
example:
If you connect the Blue wire to the Brown wire it will send an X10 ON Command (with address) If you unconnect them an OFF command is send.
The same goes for the Red, Orange and Yellow wires (un)connected to Blue.
If you make an event in Homeseer you can log the On and the Off command. This way you know how long the device was On or Off and also the realtime status.
But to attach the IMX10 wires to the relays in the Hvac can be done if you have some knowledge about electronics, and might need some additional components depending on the type of relay. Thats why its much easier to do something with Status leds (if you have them [:)] )
Winter is coming, how to monitor heating system?
I think i've understood! just a resume to check it
1) thermostat triggers relays
2) imx10 is wired to relay , and triggering realys is triggering imx10 too
3) imx10 has its own x10-address (suppose a12) and sends to homeseer its status change (so a12 ON)
4) when temperature is ok, relays triggers off and imx10 is off too , this is sent to homeseer again
WIRING WILL BE DONE BY MY ELECTRICIAN.....
i've cheked EVENTS , i saw TRIGGER has "device status change" option , but then ? what is the ACTION, i don't see any "report" option ? and do i need an event for ON and another for OFF? how do i combine them to do calculations? thanks a lot for your help
1) thermostat triggers relays
2) imx10 is wired to relay , and triggering realys is triggering imx10 too
3) imx10 has its own x10-address (suppose a12) and sends to homeseer its status change (so a12 ON)
4) when temperature is ok, relays triggers off and imx10 is off too , this is sent to homeseer again
WIRING WILL BE DONE BY MY ELECTRICIAN.....
i've cheked EVENTS , i saw TRIGGER has "device status change" option , but then ? what is the ACTION, i don't see any "report" option ? and do i need an event for ON and another for OFF? how do i combine them to do calculations? thanks a lot for your help
Winter is coming, how to monitor heating system?
Right!
are you using Homeseer, if yes. You need a Homeseer advisor!
But it should be simple just an event or trigger on a device change and log this to a database.
Then you get something like this:
are you using Homeseer, if yes. You need a Homeseer advisor!
But it should be simple just an event or trigger on a device change and log this to a database.
Then you get something like this: