Battery Merten Switch and Homeseer

[abl]

The toilet lights in my house can only be controlled from the outside (hall). I've replaced the old switch with a built in (non-battery) Merten Connect switch and added a second (battery) Merten switch at the inside of my toilet. After that I've coupled the two devices and this works perfectly.

1. My first question however is how is it possible to integrate this setup in Homeseer. Is it true that any slave switch can have only 1 master, so that I cannot control the outside switch with the battery controlled switch and Homeseer?

2. Can I connect the battery controlled switch to Homeseer and let the software control the outside switch somehow? What I read in other fora was that there was a specific problem with the integration of battery switches with Homeseer (I've a Aeon Labs stick).

[mhn]

Hi.

I don't know anything about HomeSeer. But I use a lot of Z-Wave.

1. I have lamps controlled by 4 different controllers/remotes. (I think, I have read, the max. is 5, but I have never reached the limit.)

2. HomesSeer don't need to understand the battery switch to make it work.

(I have descried it here in danish, Maybe it can be used with google translate? http://zwaves.dk/index.php/z-wave-i-bru ... kke-kender )

The only problem is, that the built in switch will only report its state to one controller. So you will need to ask for the state from Homeseer.

Regards
Morten

[Wim2008]

Try to use as first stage Merten Configurator software and store network data in some Merten controller (Master for network).
You can use a radio push button connect 1-gang as Master.
After this you just transfer data to HS and use this one as an Slave controller.

B.R. Wim

[MacGyver]

2. Can I connect the battery controlled switch to Homeseer and let the software control the outside switch somehow? What I read in other fora was that there was a specific problem with the integration of battery switches with Homeseer (I've a Aeon Labs stick).

This is exctly what I'm looking for, and never got a straight answer.
Could someone please tell me if it possible ?
Do I absolutely need Merten stuff to do that or can it be done as well with Düwi ?

[Wim2008]

If you have Merten or Duwi devices with a battery, it going as told before.
If you use devices without battery, you can read them directly into homeseer.

B.R. Wim

[MacGyver]

If you have Merten or Duwi devices with a battery, it going as told before.

Ok, so these are useless for the time being, understood.

If you use devices without battery, you can read them directly into homeseer.

Ok, so to be sure we understand each other and that I'm getting this correctly: If I use a standard insert switch, I can use it to trigger an event in HS ?
So for instance, I rock a switch locally and I will immediately get a status update in HS that I will be able to use as a trigger for an event to activate other things simultaneously ?
This would be new as so far I've read that this was not possible because of the Lutron licencing stuff and we had to rely on polling to know the switch state.
The thing I don't understand is if a switch can be instantly triggered by another by just associating them, why wouldn't HS been aware of this if it is associated in place of the second switch. Why rely on polling then ?
So based on your statement, what I really want to know before plunging deaper in Zwave world is if it is possible, or not, to have an insert swicth or dimmer (not a battery stick-on) being associated with HS so that HS gets an instant notification of local activation (not RF remote activation) of the switch and triggers an event instantly, without having to pollute the network with status poll every second.

Thanks for your time.

Yves.

[mhn]

I have 2 types of non-Innovus remotes connected to my Innovus House Controls network. (Duwi remote and QEES Wall.)

House Control does not understand them, and can not work with them.

But I can control my lamps with them without problems.

[abl]

@WIM2008
Do I need a Merten Z-wave controller for this Merten Configurator Software or can I use my AEON-Labs USB-Stick?
How do you transfer this network data to Homeseer?

[abl]

@mhn
I’ve read your (translated) documentation via the link. If I understand this correctly I can couple my (slave) in-wall mounted switch with two controllers; one being the battery controlled and the other Homeseer (my Aeon-labs controller). Is that correct?
Yesterday evening I tried to associate the in-wall switch first with my Aeon-labs controller (three clicks) and import this information in Homeseer. This works. After this I’ve tried to associate the battery-controller with the in-wall mount switch. Then the battery controlled device is master and works with the switch. However I’m unable to control anymore from Homeseer. Could you describe the exact procedure?

[Wim2008]

If I understand your well, it is not possible to make the in-wall mount switch as primairy controller in Homeseer and as secondairy controller with the Merten battery controller.
In the Merten manual, they are saying that a primairy and secondairy controller must be possible.
Also homeseer is saying, that this must be possible.

But till now I can't read in the Merten primairy controller as well.
Does anyone know why this is not possible?

B.R. Wim

[mhn]

I haven't tried it with Merten or Homeseer.

But what I do is include the second (and third) controller in my primary controllers network.

After that I set up the association between the dimmer and the remote.

Now both master and remote can control my dimmer.

@abl

If I understand you correct, you missed including your battery-controller in the network of your Aeon-labs.

First You have Aeon-labs USB as primary.

You include your in-wall in Aeon network.

You include your battery-controller in Aeon network.

Then you associate your in-wall with your battery-controller.

I hope it works for you. It should unless Merten has done something, I don't know about.

I have this working in 2 rooms with devices form Innovus, Duwi and QEES.

Regards
Morten

(I have described it here with QEES wall (in danish) http://zwaves.dk/index.php/z-wave-i-bru ... kender-den)

[abl]

Here you can find more information on how to include battery devices in Homeseer via the Merten software.

http://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?t=139256

However it is still not clear to me if I would need the Merten hardware controller for making this work...

[Wim2008]

Till now I didn't get it work on mine Homeseer pc with the Merten devices with batteries.
I have now a contact person at Merten and I hope soon to hear how to implement the devices in homeseer.

I will inform you as I have the sollution from Merten.

B.R. Wim

[Wim2008]

Today there two persons from Merten by me. We have talk a lot about Merten devices, Zwave devices and Homeseer.
Here short my story from to day:
In the lab of Merten they have build a Homeseer surrounding area with aeon stick and several Merten devices in it. Also the battery devices.
They read everything in Merten software (Merten and Duwi) and after that they transfer everything to Homeseer.
They did the same thing by me today with all my Zwave devices and everything is working fine in Homeseer now.
There are several important point to remember:
- All devices must be registrated in Merten software
- Primair device and system administrator is the Merten USB stick
- Aeon stick must read in Homeseer as last
- Aeon stick is secondaire system administrator
- All devices have to be programmed in Merten
- all devices are after programmed in Merten software, transfered to Homseer with the button: Zwave-manage-Replicate recieve.

Only one device works not complete. I have to ask Homeseer why not, because everything is seen in Homeseer. It is the Connect 2-gang. From this one I can only work with the first button. The second button is seen in Homeseer but has no status.

B.R. Wim

[abl]

Regarding my problems I had contact with a friendly Danish guy that helped me a lot. At a certain point I was not able to control some Merten switches anymore. He pointed me to a piece of software that in combination with the Merten configurator was able to reset all devices. After that I did as you explained above and everything is working perfectly now.