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SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:08 pm
by Noel
Is it possible to use a SAIX12 for a hotel schakeling, and if so how?
SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:16 pm
by Ruud
SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:31 pm
by Noel
Ik zie het op blz 24 (optie 2)
Bedankt voor de link.
SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:02 pm
by Bwired
SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:41 pm
by Noel
I was sure I had seen it before
SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:23 pm
by Francois
It looks like the SAIX12 can full fill all my needs. The wiring I have in my house cannot be changed neither can I add addtional wires so I am thinking of placing the module in the light fixture. There's only one "but", the SAIX12 is about 85 euro's. Are there any cheaper alternatives available?
Up to now I have not seen any modules that allow the switch wires to be directly connected to mains power.
Francois
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SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:18 pm
by Rene
How do I implement a 2-way switch (wisselschakeling) using the 'old' SAIX?
Rene.
SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:17 pm
by Bwired
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Francois</i>
<br />It looks like the SAIX12 can full fill all my needs. The wiring I have in my house cannot be changed neither can I add addtional wires so I am thinking of placing the module in the light fixture. There's only one "but", the SAIX12 is about 85 euro's. Are there any cheaper alternatives available?
Up to now I have not seen any modules that allow the switch wires to be directly connected to mains power.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Its 71 euro at
http://www.hlkonline.nl/epages/61772808 ... ouwmodules
SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:19 pm
by Bwired
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rklootwijk</i>
<br />How do I implement a 2-way switch (wisselschakeling) using the 'old' SAIX?
Rene.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You need the SAIX and a extra module which sends only the X10 command over the powerline to first SAIX. Can't remember which module without actor it was, but it was not a nice working solution (delay)! I tried but never used it, the SAIX12 is a way better solution!
SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:22 pm
by Pieterpaul
You need 2 old SAIX' to do that. One you use just as Switch (input only), and the other as Switch + Actuator (input and output). The advantage of this is that you don't need the two switches to be pre-wired with double switching (black) wires (like you would have without X10, and as can be seen in the figure in the original post). With the new SAIX12 you can use existing double wiring to your advantage. Of course, in case you don't have the double wiring you can still connect two SAIX12s the 'old-fashoined' way.
SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:29 pm
by Pieterpaul
Pieter is right, you can also use an AIX instead of the first 'old' SAIX. But the price difference is not that great and the SAIX has as advantage that it also has a switchable output that you may still make use of for some other purpose. What I mean is that you can take advantage of the fact that every SAIX (old or new) has 2 inputs and one output. So if you combine them in a smart manner, you can build two hotelswitches (i.e. 2 independently switch lightsources, both operated from two locations) or one hotelswitch plus a normal switch or whatever you like/need with just the two SAIXs. I actually use it like that and it works quite nice.
/PP
SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:07 am
by Francois
Pieter and others, thanks for your input.
I am investigating an other alternative using a simple one channel micro module like the S2263 Micromodule one-Lamp (38 euros). The plan is to fit the module in the light fixture and use the switch powerline to drive a (solid state) relay that on it's turn opens and closes the switch wires on the micro module. I have to implement a relay because the wires cannot be connected to mains directly.
Any reason why not to take this approach?
Francois
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SAIX12 and a "Hotel schakeling"
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:09 am
by Alexander
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Francois</i>
Any reason why not to take this approach?
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insurance for possible fires?