Someone has the new PMIX35 1.1.6 software?

Post by **binkiem** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:39 pm

Xanura said there is a new software version of the PMIX35 application. It is a new analysing tab. The software is not yet released on the Xanura website (www.xanurahome.nl) I don't know the reason why? Does someone know it and does someone have this version?

Post by **dwang** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:18 pm

The new software is comming next month.
The are testing it now.

Post by **binkiem** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:38 pm

Software is nu te downloaden [:D]
http://www.xanurahome.nl/installateur/H ... fault.aspx

Post by **Lennart** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:38 am

Hi all,

I just downloaded and tried the new PMIX35 software.

It installed without any problems on top of an existing installation of the previous version.

But beware: if you run it for the first time, it will immediately proceed to update the firmware of your PMIX35, without warning (nothing dramatic, but something you should know).

The new validation functionality (see screenshot) seems to be working well, but it does take some time and it will switch all of your devices on the selected house codes on and off - so please be careful with the electric chain saw behind the SAIX12

.

I still have to find out what exaxtly is happening during the validation test (it seems to be the A10 version of a ping), but for this house code everything is in the green, so I guess I did something right

.

Lennart

Post by **zyx** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:58 pm

And the sofware is gone form the site!
Does someone has a copy?
P

updated by admin

Post by **Bwired** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:01 pm

I have a copy, first have to find it, its on my USB stick but where is it

Post by **Bwired** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:08 pm

Lennart,

which version do you have?
is it 1.1.5 ?

Post by **binkiem** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:26 pm

version 1.1.6 is still available

http://www.xanurahome.nl/installateur/P ... _1.1.6.zip

Post by **Bwired** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:46 pm

My last version was 1.1.5, downloading now 1.1.6
thanks

Post by **dwang** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:51 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by binkiem
 version 1.1.6 is still available
http://www.xanurahome.nl/installateur/P ... _1.1.6.zip
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Thanks

Post by **JeroenE** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:33 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">version 1.1.6 is still available<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I tried this version, but I'm having mixed feelings.

I only have a few modules in the house (mostly to test/experiment so 2 modules are still connected with a power cord to a wall outlet).

With some experimenting I found a few appliances which were disturbing the communications so those appliances have been moved to another "group" or put behind a wall-outlet filter.

So now I have 5 groups behind a powerline filter (SFX40) of which 3 groups are used the most (eg almost all lights, wall outlets etc are connected on those 3 groups), 1 group is not used at all and the last one only has the bell-transformer on it.

I have three modules connected, each on one of the 3 groups. With the PMIX35 software I can see the modules and connect them from (almost) every wall outlet. There are a few which are a bit wonky. The PMIX won't see all the modules if I use that wall outlet (eg only 2 from the 3 sometimes not even the module on the same group). Mostly it works when I put the PMIX on a long power extension cable.

So if I manually send commands ore request the status the modules will respond every time.

With the latest software I tried to "validate" the setup. What I found disturbing is that the software will first say "gevonden" than "mislukt" and then "controleer". If I look at the commands in the "analyzer" tab I can see the PMIX sends a few status requests when it first starts to "validate". Even though the module responds it will still say "mislukt" and later on "controleer" when it has finished with the module. For example this is the output of a module (a SAIX12):

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Module  Tx OFF  Tx ON   Min Lvl Max Lvl Ruis    Imp     Resultaat
B01     3563    3547    6141    6710    419     17,1    Controleer

Is this a problem in the software (and the reason it's not found on the site anymore) or is there something still disturbing the signals in our house? I hoped I'd found them all...

Post by **Bwired** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:21 pm

Let me check with Eaton, I think there is a reason why the software is not online anymore

Post by **Lennart** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:02 pm

Hi Pieter,

(Sorry for the late reply; I was out of network reach for a few days.)

The version I installed is 1.1.6. I haven't used the PMIX35 intensively since installing the new software, as I'm back to my CTX35 via a LAN interface for primary control.

I'm curious to know what the reason is for retracting this version...

Lennart

Post by **Bwired** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:29 pm

Hi all
Version 1.1.6 is the latest PMX35 software
and here I have the manual for it http://www.bwired.nl/images/how/PMIX35116.pdf

In dutch a part of how the validate is working (sorry)

Validatie:

Op elk adres worden meerdere metingen uitgevoerd.
Eerst wordt gekeken of een module reageert. Dit wordt gedaan bij maximaal zendniveau (5Vpp).

Daarna wordt 4 keer het zendniveau verlaagd met 20%.
Als deze de eerste keer (bij 4,2Vpp) al niet meer reageert dan is de marge te klein en krijgt dit adres het stempel Mislukt.

Vervolgens wordt getest bij 3,5Vpp en 2,9Vpp.
Pas bij 2,5Vpp zendniveau krijgt deze het stempel Geslaagd anders wordt het stempel Controleer toegekend.
De testgrenzen zijn om precies te zijn
- >4,585Vpp: Mislukt
- <4,585Vpp en > 2,726Vpp : Controleer
- <2,726Vpp: Geslaagd

Verder wordt gekeken naar de ontvangen signaal niveaus:
- <100mV: Mislukt
- >100mV en <200mV: Controleer
- >200mV: Geslaagd

Post by **JeroenE** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:13 pm

Thanks for the info. The software does not behave as it states in the manual. At least it dowsn't show that way in the "Analyze" tab. Attached I've sent a "validate" log from the B01 module. The first few status requests are made by me. The first on (on full power) works OK; the second one (at 0,8V) does not work. I then try a few times and the tipping point is around 1V. Below the module does not respond, above it will send the status as requested.

Then at 18:54 I started the validate. According to the log they try with 4,5V, 5V, 6,2V, 5,2V, 4,3V, and 3,7V signal. All requests are answered by the module. So that is why I don't understand the software says it's "mislukt". It didn't even try lower than 2,7V....

[edit]The attachment does not seem to come through so here it is:

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Datum Tijd      Spatie  Data 1  Voltage 1       Ruis Niveau 1   Data 2  Voltage 2       Ruis Niveau 2   Netwerk Impedantie      Status  Echo
22-9-2008 18:52:53      S       B01     7474    402                             17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:52:54      S       BSRQ    4470    426                             17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:52:54      S       B01     6668    390     B01     6674    387     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:52:54      S       BSOF    6673    384     BSOF    6680    387     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:00      S       B01     1308    407                             17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:01      S       BSRQ    885     427                             17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:06      S       B01     1855    397                             17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:07      S       BSRQ    1217    421                             17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:07      S       B01     6448    401     B01     6422    401     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:07      S       BSOF    6406    408     BSOF    6387    421     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:17      S       B01     1469    377                             17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:17      S       BSRQ    1035    365                             17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:18      S       B01     6436    401     B01     6441    413     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:18      S       BSOF    6427    420     BSOF    6417    425     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:26      S       B01     1159    404                             17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:53:27      S       BSRQ    896     377                             17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:03      S       B01     4495    407     B01     4489    393     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:04      S       BSRQ    4496    372     BSRQ    4497    386     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:04      S       B01     6691    398     B01     6705    399     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:05      S       BSOF    6726    380     BSOF    6702    385     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:06      S       B01     5068    401     B01     5074    395     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:06      S       BSRQ    5063    427     BSRQ    5077    425     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:07      S       B01     6671    407     B01     6663    410     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:07      S       BSOF    6653    417     BSOF    6636    408     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:08      S       B01     6249    401     B01     6284    406     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:08      S       BSRQ    6254    420     BSRQ    6250    422     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:09      S       B01     6522    412     B01     6528    409     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:09      S       BSOF    6506    414     BSOF    6514    415     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:10      S       B01     5253    390     B01     5259    393     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:10      S       BSRQ    5274    367     BSRQ    5265    377     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:11      S       B01     6955    398     B01     6962    398     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:11      S       BSOF    6951    384     BSOF    7013    391     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:12      S       B01     4382    401     B01     4387    386     17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:13      S       BSRQ    4376    383     BSRQ    4399    377     17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:13      S       B01     6466    394     B01     6459    391     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:14      S       BSOF    6470    392     BSOF    6445    382     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:14      S       B01     3697    397     B01     3673    393     17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:15      S       BSRQ    3683    406     BSRQ    3656    420     17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:15      S       B01     6358    402     B01     6353    394     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:16      S       BSOF    6331    412     BSOF    6337    415     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:18      S       B01     7472    409     B01     7470    407     17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:18      S       BON     7472    404     BON     7463    411     17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:20      S       B01     4472    393     B01     4471    401     17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:20      S       BSRQ    4492    374     BSRQ    4487    368     17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:21      S       B01     6967    393     B01     6979    388     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:21      S       BSON    6983    380     BSON    6994    384     17,3            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:22      S       B01     6248    403     B01     6251    405     17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:22      S       BSRQ    6236    422     BSRQ    6253    411     17,3            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:23      S       B01     6513    398     B01     6513    414     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:23      S       BSON    6494    415     BSON    6486    418     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:24      S       B01     5249    399     B01     5241    418     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:25      S       BSRQ    5233    418     BSRQ    5223    424     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:25      S       B01     6447    413     B01     6473    410     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:25      S       BSON    6472    403     BSON    6461    410     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:26      S       B01     4376    408     B01     4376    393     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:27      S       BSRQ    4356    423     BSRQ    4376    421     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:27      S       B01     6420    410     B01     6429    401     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:27      S       BSON    6417    416     BSON    6398    421     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:28      S       B01     3667    402     B01     3678    400     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:29      S       BSRQ    3650    426     BSRQ    3660    408     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:29      S       B01     6352    402     B01     6347    404     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:30      S       BSON    6356    416     BSON    6878    417     17,1            No Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:31      S       B01     7465    400     B01     7497    392     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:31      S       BOFF    7491    404     BOFF    7486    393     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:33      S       B02     4489    395     B02     4483    388     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:33      S       BSRQ    4512    385     BSRQ    4519    371     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:37      S       B03     4480    397     B03     4466    402     17,1            Echo
22-9-2008 18:54:37      S       BSRQ    4491    373     BSRQ    4491    374     17,1            Echo